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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 05-22-2020, 10:02 PM - Thread Starter
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Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV TG - High Temps

Hi all,

First time I post on this forum so I apologize if I miss anything.

I have recently upgraded my Mobo, RAM, CPU Cooler, CPU and Fans but temps seem kinda high

This is my build:
Ryzen 3600 (OC'd to 4250 1.35V) Idle temps 40-50C - Gaming 60-75C
Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
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Asus Strix 1080 TI OC (Automatic Fan Curve) 35-40C Idle Gaming 65-75C
Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV TG
Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W GOLD Modular

Case fans: PURE WINGS 2 140mm (3pin 1000 RPMS)
Front: 2 intake
Back: 1 exhaust
Top 2 exhaust

I am looking for ideas on how to cool this thing off? I previously had an AIO and an r5 1600 and temps were much lower, also had all stock fans and never played with them and that seemed to work.

Thank you for reading
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You have two issues I can see right from the start.

First, you gave your fans a serious downgrade. The included Phanteks F140MP are much better fans than the Pure Wings you replaced them with. The Pure Wings are particularly poor at working in environments with any resistance like the front or top of an Evolv, so you are getting very little fresh air into the case.

Second, what little fresh air you do get in is being drawn out the top of the case by the top exhaust fans rather than going to the CPU cooler. There is no reason for those too fans to be there and they are hurting, not helping, your airflow.

Try putting the Phanteks fans back in the front and back, remove the top fans and you should see an improvement.

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Hi ciarlatano,

Thank you for your reply. These Phanteks fans died, the motors were getting real noisy. What would you recommend replacing them with? Would you have the top fans pulling air into the case or just remove them altogether?
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I would lose the top exhaust fan closer to the front panel..

I have the same case (mATX TG) with no top exhaust fans and a hot(ter) cpu than yours and it cools just fine with an 120 AIO..

Also try doing the front panel mod as shown in the video..


Setting a fan curve in BIOS would definitely help too..Bequiet pure wings are quiet fans ,so don't be afraid to run them faster..

For more info on airflow and cooling ,browse this thread

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Mod the case/change it or go back to AIO. That case is poor to run on air how it is.

The case has the same dimensions as a compact ATX.... meshify C and Corsair 220t has literally the same footprint.

For reference, I'm using my meshify C with 2x140+120 as front intake and a 140mm bottom intake. Nh d15 with 1 fan. 1080 strix has 2x120mm fans on it. R5 2600 it's at 4ghz with 1.25v and GPU at 2025-2038mhz with 1.045v.
In cod warzone I'm getting 45-47°C on CPU and 57-60°C on GPU. Running case fans at 600rpm, CPU cooler at 500, and GPU at 1000, with 21-22°C ambient.

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Hi ciarlatano,

Thank you for your reply. These Phanteks fans died, the motors were getting real noisy. What would you recommend replacing them with? Would you have the top fans pulling air into the case or just remove them altogether?
Pull the top fans out. There is no benefit in having the top fans in an Evolv unless there is a rad there, they tend to kill any actual airflow in the case. Just pulling them out right now may help a bit. And while not ideal, given that the Pure Wings are getting so little air into the case, trying them as intake may help for the moment.

Do you still have a return window on the Pure Wings? If you could exchange the five Pure Wings for three Silent Wings 3 high speed you would be set. The SW3 has significantly more static pressure than the Pure which is exactly what you need in the Evolv. Otherwise, you could grab a pair of F140MP for the front, it's hard to find a fan that outperforms them in this application and they are moderately priced. If you want to keep cost to a minimum, the Arctic P14 is a good budget fan for the application.

There is also a nice explanation of a simple mod for the front of the Evolv here - https://www.overclock.net/forum/161-...l#post28440266
I did this mod a couple of years ago and it helps quite a bit. That is also a thread you might want to pose questions in. There are a lot of Evolv users who can speak from direct experience. The Evolv has its own specific quirks, so the "my Fractal/Corsair/Tt/etc case" posts will typically not apply in any way, or will have you doing things and spending money to make the situation worse.

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Try Corsair ML140 or ML120 (Non-pro). You can get a 2 pack from Walmart.com for under $40. They are the fans with the little ships on them. They are incredibly quiet, reliable, and are good for both airflow and static pressure if you plan on upgrading to watercooling. I’ve been running 9 of these fans (pro, which just adds lighting) for over 3 years, never cleaned them until today, and none have shown any issues. They also survived a power supply explosion caused by bad grounding and salty ocean air which rusted out my GPU backplate. They're not cheap but are as close to a perfect fan as you can get.

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What ciarlatano said.
Fill the front with good pressure rated fan, block all opening in fan mounting panel not covered by fans so air they push into case has to flow through case, not leak back in front of fans. Remove all PCIe back slot covers to increase rear vent area to have better front to back airflow thus lower air temp for lower component temps so lower fan speed and less noise.
Link below is it some basics about vent restrictions. There are other guides in that thread you might find interesting as well.
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Hi all,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to this thread.

I have replaced the front fans with F140MP's and I removed the top fan closer to the front panel. I still have the same pure wings 2 as rear exahust. I also went on the bios and basically ramped up all RPMs. CPU seems to be doing around 5-7C better, GPU is still an issue. Should I be replacing the rear fan too? I can grab another F140MP if I need to. What about the ton fan? should I have that one pushing air into the case? or keep it pulling air out? or maybe just remove it altogether.

I also have removed a plastic cover from the top rear part of the case to try to improve airflow

I haven't done the front panel mod, I'll probably go shopping today for the washers.

Thx all!
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Hi all,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to this thread.

I have replaced the front fans with F140MP's and I removed the top fan closer to the front panel. I still have the same pure wings 2 as rear exahust. I also went on the bios and basically ramped up all RPMs. CPU seems to be doing around 5-7C better, GPU is still an issue. Should I be replacing the rear fan too? I can grab another F140MP if I need to. What about the ton fan? should I have that one pushing air into the case? or keep it pulling air out? or maybe just remove it altogether.

I also have removed a plastic cover from the top rear part of the case to try to improve airflow

I haven't done the front panel mod, I'll probably go shopping today for the washers.

Thx all!
You can also cut out the useless rear fan mesh like I did today on my Evolv ATX TG. The hole I made will be covered up by an external radiator so it won't be visible anyway. But if you care about looks, you can use some automotive vinyl like I did in the other picture with the reservoir and radiator cutouts.
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