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Are LP Coolers even worth compared to the Wraith Prism?

Been a while since i built a full fledged, Desktop rig for gaming. (Got sick of gaming in a laptop that are meant for editing)

And while I’m just preparing to go all in for a 16-core Ryzen 4th Gen as soon as it drops, I’m preparing to acquire rest of the components, and the last one is the CPU Cooler. (Just got the Wraith Prism for now).

I’ve done some heavy research and the top ones that keeps on coming up, no taller than 100mm are the Noctua NH-L12S, NH-L9, Be Quiet Shadow Rock LP. And just based on the physics alone, I’m doubtful that they’re better than the AMD Prism. I surely hate having to waste $100 just to find out they’re no better than the Prism.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
Scythe Big Shuriken 3.
I've looked at that one as well. It seems to be around the same performance as the Noctuas

Which I don't mind. But I would really want to know if these would have at least 3-5c improvement over the Wraith Prism.

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Phanteks PH-TC12LS is a good option as well,

However for most performance I'd say Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with a proper 25mm width fan, or Cryorig C1 or Thermalright AXP-200 Muscle (if you can fit the Cryorig and Thermalright due to their other measurements (depth,length,VRM clearance) and also both with proper 25mm width fans).

With the performance being in AXP-200 > C1 > Shuriken 3.
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First thing to do is make sure your case is flowing air like it should so cooler is getting air less than 5c warmer than room. Many case do not have good airflow and cooler are often trying to cool with air 10c, 15c, sometimes even 20c warmer than room when gaming ro doing other heave load applications. As there almost exactly a 1:1 ratio between increases in air temp enter cooler to CPU temp at same fan speed and load, a 15c warmer warmer than room means CPU is 10c hotter than if air entering cooler is only 5c warmer than room. In all of my builds air entering coolers is less than 3c warmer than room air.
You might find below link to basic guide to airflow and how to optimize case airflow helpful.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22319249-post5.html

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dogzilla07 View Post
Phanteks PH-TC12LS is a good option as well,

However for most performance I'd say Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with a proper 25mm width fan, or Cryorig C1 or Thermalright AXP-200 Muscle (if you can fit the Cryorig and Thermalright due to their other measurements (depth,length,VRM clearance) and also both with proper 25mm width fans).

With the performance being in AXP-200 > C1 > Shuriken 3.
I think these are exactly the coolers that I'm after. That Thermalright and Cryorig seems to be in a different level. It's a bit expensive but I have no doubt it will give me more than 5c compared to the prism. I'll replace it with one of the extra 140x25mm Magnetic Corsair fans. Thanks man!

Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
First thing to do is make sure your case is flowing air like it should so cooler is getting air less than 5c warmer than room. Many case do not have good airflow and cooler are often trying to cool with air 10c, 15c, sometimes even 20c warmer than room when gaming ro doing other heave load applications. As there almost exactly a 1:1 ratio between increases in air temp enter cooler to CPU temp at same fan speed and load, a 15c warmer warmer than room means CPU is 10c hotter than if air entering cooler is only 5c warmer than room. In all of my builds air entering coolers is less than 3c warmer than room air.
You might find below link to basic guide to airflow and how to optimize case airflow helpful.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22319249-post5.html
My current case is just being slotted between the shelves of at the top portion my computer table, with just a mesh cover, so it pretty much is close to being an open air case. And my AC is pointed at it as well. xD

My ask is how much better will these LP coolers be compared to the Wraith Prism though

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