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Cooler for 3700x/pbo and future 3950x

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I'm looking to buy a better cooler for my 3700x (with pbo enabled at 130/80/95 now) i'm hitting 85°C on synthetic tests and while doing raw->jpg photo conversions which is my main use.
With pbo at max settings i'm looking at higher temps but with no increase in performance due to thermal constraints.

Without PBO i'm at about 75°C max, but with lower all core speeds (noticeable in higher export time when doing 1000+ pictures).



I'm not looking for a cooler that has a little better thermal performance.



The idea is to buy a cooler that has headroom for a future 3950x.


If i have to set 2 price points: USD50 and USD90, what would you get?


I looked around and the Fuma 2 is on stock at USD60 and seems to be a good and quiet cpu cooler.
Or maybe there is another cooler with bigger fans and lower noise and better cooling capacity?


Also.. i know some coolers are concave and others convex and i'm afraid to get a cooler that does not have very good contact with the cpu.


Thanks!

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Quote: Originally Posted by ltcdata View Post
Hi!
I'm looking to buy a better cooler for my 3700x (with pbo enabled at 130/80/95 now) i'm hitting 85°C on synthetic tests and while doing raw->jpg photo conversions which is my main use.
With pbo at max settings i'm looking at higher temps but with no increase in performance due to thermal constraints.

Without PBO i'm at about 75°C max, but with lower all core speeds (noticeable in higher export time when doing 1000+ pictures).

I'm not looking for a cooler that has a little better thermal performance.

The idea is to buy a cooler that has headroom for a future 3950x.

If i have to set 2 price points: USD50 and USD90, what would you get?


I looked around and the Fuma 2 is on stock at USD60 and seems to be a good and quiet cpu cooler.
Or maybe there is another cooler with bigger fans and lower noise and better cooling capacity?

Also.. i know some coolers are concave and others convex and i'm afraid to get a cooler that does not have very good contact with the cpu.

Thanks!
We can't really make cooler recommendations without knowing what case, motherboard and RAM you are using as well as CPU. Any suggestions without knowing those things may or may not be usable in your system.

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If I was going to replace the wraith prism I would get the Noctua NH-U12A. I like the size and the fans it comes with, check out the review below if you want.

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Above video review is a joke. First off NH-U12A is not a "big" cooler. It's a mid-size cooler measuring 128x112x158mm w/ fan (WxDxH). A big cooler is NH-D15 measurign 150x161x165mm w/ fan (WxDxH). We've seen that guy's work posted here before. Results are all over the place.

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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
We can't really make cooler recommendations without knowing what case, motherboard and RAM you are using as well as CPU. Any suggestions without knowing those things may or may not be usable in your system.

Currently i'm using the stock wraith cooler, and a Geforce 750ti (i do not need big gpu horsepower for the work i do... maybe in the distant future i will upgrade it but not now).


I've built the computer in my old case, because i ordered the phanteks eclipse p600s closed but it has not arrived yet due to the pandemic. I plan on using the 3 included phanteks fans in the intake and only add one 120mm fan i already have in the back as exhaust. One of the things that made me choose this case is dual operation (able to remove the front if i need more airflow), the included high quality fans and the big clearance for any cooler i might buy.

RAM is what i was able to get in my country: Corsair LPX 3000mhz 8x2 (CMK8GX4M1D3000C16), but the good thing is not tall so any cooler will fit. If i need to upgrade in the future i will always buy ram that is not tall.


Motherboard is an Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WIFI.
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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Above video review is a joke. First off NH-U12A is not a "big" cooler. It's a mid-size cooler measuring 128x112x158mm w/ fan (WxDxH). A big cooler is NH-D15 measurign 150x161x165mm w/ fan (WxDxH). We've seen that guy's work posted here before. Results are all over the place.
Come on Doyll, granted it is a youtube video and the test seem tobe preformed in some guys house and not a lab. I would say it is a fair and balanced test for the normal user to use as a tool.

yes theU12A is a large cooler and the D15 is an extremely large cooler.


This is a normal sized cooler Thermaltake UX100.

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Normal sized if you were using a stock cooler.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ltcdata View Post
Currently i'm using the stock wraith cooler, and a Geforce 750ti (i do not need big gpu horsepower for the work i do... maybe in the distant future i will upgrade it but not now).


I've built the computer in my old case, because i ordered the phanteks eclipse p600s closed but it has not arrived yet due to the pandemic. I plan on using the 3 included phanteks fans in the intake and only add one 120mm fan i already have in the back as exhaust. One of the things that made me choose this case is dual operation (able to remove the front if i need more airflow), the included high quality fans and the big clearance for any cooler i might buy.

RAM is what i was able to get in my country: Corsair LPX 3000mhz 8x2 (CMK8GX4M1D3000C16), but the good thing is not tall so any cooler will fit. If i need to upgrade in the future i will always buy ram that is not tall.


Motherboard is an Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WIFI.
stock fans in the P600s are a bit pish TBH.
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