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Thermalright Silver Arrow ITX-R + 10900k

can this little thing cool down the 10900k beast even if i oc? the case would be the crystal 280x

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can this little thing cool down the 10900k beast even if i oc? the case would be the crystal 280x
You need to start with a case that actually has airflow rather than a glass hotbox.

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Silver Arrow ITX-R is probably okay, but I'm curious as to why you picked it over other Silver Arrow coolers?

Crystal 280 only has 150mm CPU clearance .. Silver Arrow ITX-R is 153mm tall, so it probably won't fit.

With glass front panel Crystal 280 has very limited airflow. To have decent airflow front needs to be vented, not glass paneled. If it was me I would look for a case with better airflow designed into it. Maybe a Phanteks Eclipse series, or XL, Pro or Mini XL. Phanteks makes good cases and they come with good fans too so don't need to spend as much setting up case airflow. Fractal Design make good cases too, but their included fans are junk so need replacking.

Anyways, assumng you change plans for a better case, we need to also know what motherboard, and RAM you plan to use to be sure coolers we suggest will fit.

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Silver arrow ITX-R is <150mm tall.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dogzilla07 View Post
Silver arrow ITX-R Rev.A is <150mm tall.
I'll blame it on my eyes.

Indeed, it's 147.2mm tall.


Also noticed Silver Arrow ITX-R Rev.A uses TY-129 fan rated 84.97cfm. Normal 140mm fan in other Silver Arrows is TY-14x 1300, 1800, 2500rpm with higher airflow ratings and bigger airflow pattern. I think if I was building and wanted Silver Arrow cooler I would use Silver Arrow 130, not ITX-R Rev.A

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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Silver Arrow ITX-R is probably okay, but I'm curious as to why you picked it over other Silver Arrow coolers?

Crystal 280 only has 150mm CPU clearance .. Silver Arrow ITX-R is 153mm tall, so it probably won't fit.

With glass front panel Crystal 280 has very limited airflow. To have decent airflow front needs to be vented, not glass paneled. If it was me I would look for a case with better airflow designed into it. Maybe a Phanteks Eclipse series, or XL, Pro or Mini XL. Phanteks makes good cases and they come with good fans too so don't need to spend as much setting up case airflow. Fractal Design make good cases too, but their included fans are junk so need replacking.

Anyways, assumng you change plans for a better case, we need to also know what motherboard, and RAM you plan to use to be sure coolers we suggest will fit.
the only one that fit is the itx-r silver arrow, if you know any other based the low profile that do not work good here please tell me...

i want to build a micro itx desktop, and the 280x should be a good case for this, i don't want a full tower

also the motherboard they suggested me the msi z490m but other suggested me the rog strix, so i don't know which one is the best

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i want to build a micro itx desktop, and the 280x should be a good case for this, i don't want a full tower
It's a good case for fitting an ITX board.....but that's about it. It's a hotbox. As @doyll pointed out, there is no shortage of well designed mITX cases out there that can actually provide airflow. The 10900K runs hot, really hot, and is hard enough to cool. Putting it in a case that doesn't have decent airflow is just asking for problems no matter what cooler you put on it. Even the best of coolers can't cool without airflow.

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the only one that fit is the itx-r silver arrow, if you know any other based the low profile that do not work good here please tell me...

i want to build a micro itx desktop, and the 280x should be a good case for this, i don't want a full tower

also the motherboard they suggested me the msi z490m but other suggested me the rog strix, so i don't know which one is the best
Yeah, I was thinking Silver Arrow ITX R was taller. Can't think of any others as short with as good cooling, but keep in mind Crystal 280X is severely limiting cooling performance of all air cooled components because it doesn't have good airflow.

Crystal 280X = 398mm x 276mm x 351mm (50mm wider / bigger footprint)
Meshify C Mini = 395 x 212 x 399 mm (LxWxH)
Meshify C Midi = 395 x 212 x 440 mmand comes in white.
Evolv mATX = 230 x 400 x 453 mm x 400 mm (DxWxH) is silver & smoked glass
I'm using an Evolv mATx myself with 2x included 140mm fans as front intakes, all openings in fan mounting panel blocked so air they push in has to flow through case, not leak around fans going in circles, and removed all unused PCIe slot covers for more rear venting around GPU so better front to back airflow, cooler air into cooler, so lowr fan speeds and less noise.

I know they are mATX, not ITX, but still smaller than Crystal 280X .. which is also mATX. It's only a few examples of other cases. There are many more. Some ITX cases are much smaller

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so i''m forced to buy a full tower if i want to cool down the 10900k? or i'm forced to avoid air cooling and pointing out at the aio right? well that's pity...

i thought that the two fan inside the 280x crystal would be enough to have some decent airflow, i can change them if there are better one

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so i''m forced to buy a full tower if i want to cool down the 10900k? or i'm forced to avoid air cooling and pointing out at the aio right? well that's pity...

i thought that the two fan inside the 280x crystal would be enough to have some decent airflow, i can change them if there are better one
There are airflow orientated matx cases, you aren’t limited to just one. With all limits off that’s a 300w cpu is it not? What a beast.

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