Originally Posted by Phaaze88
I see... thanks for clearing that up!
So AIOs and custom loops are fine - it's the CLCs that have been relegated to trash tier.
That was a dick move from Asetek...
It's all kind of redundant, sort of?
Push-pull generates more noise, and some fans whine/whirr in that orientation at high rpm, where moving the rear fan to chassis exhaust solves that issue... but after testing in my own chassis, no chassis exhaust is better anyways.
^This is actually happening with the NH-D15S' heatsink when I attempt to mount 3 fans.
I'd never run TY-143s at max, unless stress testing - which I hardly bother with anymore, but the TS140 Power should open up some new, short term, opportunities...
I'd be more likely to run TY-147s at max, because why not? But knowing there's still some extra cooling that could be squeezed out whenever I wanted - but ehh, having run with these IPPC 3000s for like a year, I don't care to deal with that much noise anymore, so I see it as the fan being wasted because I'm not taking advantage of it's extra power very often.
I wouldn't say AIOs are fine, but they are definitely better than CLCs. At least with an AIO we can top up / flush & change coolant as need. We can also cut hoses to ideal lengths.
And if pump goes bad we can get a replacement pump and use fittings from dead one and rebuilt system for half or less the cost of new system.
Best one is Swiftech Drive X3. Only others are made by Alphacool. Their own Eisbaer line and be quiet! Silent Loop line. I'm using a Silent Loop on one system now for over 3 years. I've changed coolant twice and topped up about every 6 months with a 10-20ml. A small reservoir would solve that problem, but haven't bothered doing it yet as it would require reservoir, fittings and hose.
I ran a Phanteks PH-TC14PE (red) with TY-143 fans for years on my i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz only because I had them and their red housing looks good on red cooler.
I used 3x TY-143 as case intakes in a modded Define R3. They never ran above 1300rpm even rendering for hours on end on hottest day we had (29-30c). Only time they ran full speed was for shock and awe. I would start rendering something with fans turned off and when CPU reached 85c I would turn them on. They would hit full speed for about a minute than slowing down for a couple of minutes to normal speed and temps (1250rpm @75c). Attached graph is of of it at 4.3Ghz doing a prime 95 test run. After getting it to 4.3Ghz stable and comparing times rendering to 3.8Ghz I decided the little quicker rendering wasn't worth the extra noise (and possible shorter life) of system.