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Windows 10 install: any gotchas?

Due to Windows 7 support ending I'm finally going to reluctantly move to Windows 10. I'm going to go to a fresh install rather than an upgrade install (which I've heard is problematic). First I'm going to back up all my drives using Clonezilla imaging software off of the Ultimate Boot CD.

Questions:

1. Does Windows 10 require the BIOS be put into UEFI mode? I much prefer legacy mode.

2. Does Windows 10 come as a burnable ISO image?

3. is GPT significantly better than NTFS?

If anyone had any guides or gotchas on installing Windows 10 I'd like to read/see them. In particular, I'm interested in how to xfer my Origin and Uplay games and GTA IV: Episodes from Liberty City over to the the Windows 10 install. TIA.

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First thing you should do after installing the OS is downloading O&O ShutUp10 which turns off all the telemetry crap
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Since i hate the Windows 10 layout i use a few programs that can make it look and work like Windows 7
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1. No you do not need it to be in UEFI mode as I have installed 10 on several legacy machines that don't have UEFI.

2. Yes you can get it here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

3. GPT is mostly for drives over 2TB, so unless you are installing onto a large drive, NTFS is fine.

Also you can use your windows 7 key on your new Windows 10 install, just tell it you don't have a key and select the version that your Windows 7 key is (Home or Pro). Once all the drivers and updates you can activate windows using the 7 key. This will create a windows 10 key for that machine and you can keep note of it.

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1. No you do not need it to be in UEFI mode as I have installed 10 on several legacy machines that don't have UEFI.

2. Yes you can get it here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

3. GPT is mostly for drives over 2TB, so unless you are installing onto a large drive, NTFS is fine.

Also you can use your windows 7 key on your new Windows 10 install, just tell it you don't have a key and select the version that your Windows 7 key is (Home or Pro). Once all the drivers and updates you can activate windows using the 7 key. This will create a windows 10 key for that machine and you can keep note of it.
When I start running the Tool to download the win10 software it says gathering system information. I got scared thinking it was ramping up to update my win 7 system. I only want to download a fresh clean install of win 10 pro to build a new system not upgrade. am I being scared for no reason in my thinking that it looks like the tool is trying to upgrade my current win 7 system to win 10 when it says gathering system information?


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if we're being honest, most people jumped at that screen the first time they saw it.


did you go the "create installation media" route? if so, it's not gonna kill your install.

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if we're being honest, most people jumped at that screen the first time they saw it.


did you go the "create installation media" route? if so, it's not gonna kill your install.
I don't remember the exact thing I did but I definitely would not have clicked on upgrade. As soon as I saw the window stating it was gathering a few things I shut the pc down and rebooted.

OK so just create installation media and let it do it's thing until I get to the option for upgrade or create clean install so I can select clean installation media. got it. +1



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Due to Windows 7 support ending I'm finally going to reluctantly move to Windows 10. I'm going to go to a fresh install rather than an upgrade install (which I've heard is problematic). First I'm going to back up all my drives using Clonezilla imaging software off of the Ultimate Boot CD.

Questions:

1. Does Windows 10 require the BIOS be put into UEFI mode? I much prefer legacy mode.

2. Does Windows 10 come as a burnable ISO image?

3. is GPT significantly better than NTFS?

If anyone had any guides or gotchas on installing Windows 10 I'd like to read/see them. In particular, I'm interested in how to xfer my Origin and Uplay games and GTA IV: Episodes from Liberty City over to the the Windows 10 install. TIA.
NTFS is a file system type (like FAT32, exFAT, ext4, etc.).

GPT is a drive partitioning scheme, the other choice being the older MBR. GPT is functionally for booting drives over 2TB but also allows for more partitions and stores redundant partition layout information (eg: could be useful if there should be corruption or damaged). AFAIK the gotcha is that booting a GPT disk on Windows requires UEFI boot; in other words, you only need UEFI if you have your OS on a GPT disk (only the OS/boot drive matters, you could use legacy boot and have 999TB on 999 GPT disks, as long as your OS is MBR).

This is a good reference: https://www.minitool.com/partition-d...gpt-guide.html

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First thing you should do after installing the OS is downloading O&O ShutUp10 which turns off all the telemetry crap
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Since i hate the Windows 10 layout i use a few programs that can make it look and work like Windows 7
http://www.classicshell.net/
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...wexplorer.html
I'd add to this, if you plan on playing any Windows Store games (Forza, etc) then turning off too much telemetry breaks the games, and turning off the wrong telemetry (not quite worked out which bits yet) breaks achievements.

Didn't know about OldNewExplorer - thanks!


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I'd add to this, if you plan on playing any Windows Store games (Forza, etc) then turning off too much telemetry breaks the games, and turning off the wrong telemetry (not quite worked out which bits yet) breaks achievements.

Didn't know about OldNewExplorer - thanks!
So thats why i have not gotten any achievements while playing Forza Horizon 3

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