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Quote: Originally Posted by Aby67 View Post
The board qualitatively sems good, the aesthetis is horrible, but on theflipide at least the VRM heatinks are good and big....that being said MSI has never release a BIOS with offset voltage, which if that is the case all these VRMS are almost a total waste, as there would be no way to benefit from them nor get good efficiency....so u would likely end up runnign ur CPU with high voltages, inefficiently at the cot of massive heat....and a CPU like this even at stock, is not a CPU u wanna have in any environment that doesnt have at least 12k BTU of air conditioning for a small room...YOu will definitely wanna have at least a dedicated 480 MM radiator ONLY for the CPu...and YOu will definitley wanna make sure it is decoupled in some other room than where u working with it.

ALSO you lose one PCI slot...which makes it now obvious that for THeradripper 2 Dual socket size motherboards to host this CPU are a mst at this point, as it make sno sense to have this wonder CPU if u cant slot in at least 7 GPUS or even 8 as PCIe gen 4/5 is behind the corner.

So I would stay put for now UNLESS im sure there is voltage offset.

But I strongly suspect that threadripper 32 core will not sell much at all becuase in all honesty there is not one single motherboard made for it...THIS MSI motherboard is well l build but even if had voltage offset would be really way underfeatured.

You are way better off into buying a dual socket EPYC system if CPU is what matters for You, OR a single socket HPC single socket system that can host 8 gpus which is at this moment the only viable solution for those who are into 3d content worth buying.

Asus will not make any motherboards for threadripper 2 they have been copy pasting the same mother board for intel and AMD for ages now...and in all honesty the Zenith ROG is a total piece of crap as it is designed for fashion victims and not content creators or professionals, and in no way can manage the AMD W series....believe Me you DO NOT wanna hear those ****ty lats minute micro fans they pushing to kids..and spending this kind of money to score 5 k in cinebench u better off with two cheap epyc and score higher in total silence.....You can ind real life performance results in Chaos Group Vray bench marks pages.

If Your scope is gaming and streaming, dont waste Your money and stick with a Ryzen 7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1UUdXwytZI

https://benchmark.chaosgroup.com/cpu

You should NOT buy into threadripper W series if You dont need at least 60 Teraflops of compute power and above, and You should be willing to spend at least 1500 dollars for a really robust coooling solution....forget about 360 gamers radiators think chillers or massive 60 mm 540 x180 only for the CPU, if u wanna use your machine in a liveable room and spend 20 dollars a month in air conditioning when ambient temperature is anything above 19 C
Thanks for the insights, I think the comment regarding air conditioning is a little extreme though. As for the multiple GPU's, I will not be rocking any more than 2 GPU's on this platform so there is no need for me to move into the Epyc realm. I will be doing multi threaded tasks that rely on the CPU more than any GPU power.

Quote: Originally Posted by Fitzcaraldo View Post
The MEG is 16 phases, period. Yes, a doubler is used to achieve that but we are looking at ~700A that can be pushed thru the VRMs. That‘s LN2 levels of stupid high and means in reverse conclusion that the MEG can be abused for moderate OC without having to worry too much about VRM cooling, even on the 2990wx.
Thanks for the information, I think the MEG has more than enough power.

Quote: Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
The MEG is 16x 70A VCORE.
The GAE is 10x 50A VCORE.
The ZE you currently have is 8x 60A VCORE.

As a ZE owner if I was getting TR I wouldn't even consider the GAE. The other aspect of the ZE is the IR3555M have internal temperature sensor. So VRM temperature reported on this board is not a diode close to VRM components, but actual internal temperature of components AFAIK.
Nice insight, I actually looked at a TR2 review using the Zenith, lets just say the Zenith does not cope well, even with that ridiculous cooling kit which does virtually nothing (Not sure what Asus are thinking). Fine for TR1 but for the 2nd gen 250Watt TDP Cpu's. Not even worth the risk.

I think considering all the above a long with my own research and gut, I will go with the MSI MEG, Cannot go too wrong with it going by the reviews and whats on paper.

Thanks everyone !


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