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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-05-2018, 01:09 PM - Thread Starter
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Upgrade help and opinions please

hello, like many of us I bought a prebuilt pc not knowing much of the technical stuff behind at the time of purchase. 1 year later I found myself upgrading part after part which has been a great learning experience but at such a high cost. As of now I'm currently stuck and hooping I can get some advise or opinions before I spend more money. I was looking to upgrade my memory to higher MHZ but looks like my board bios wont support it as im running a I7 6700 non k processor on my Z170 MB. Alienware does offer a OC bios but only on the K processor versions. next option would be to upgrade CPU but not sure how big I can go and if the performance gain is even worth the money. thank you all for your help. here's a quick outline of my pc

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You have a Z170 board, so grab the modified BIOS from here, flash it, and OC your 6700. My 6700 non-K will hit 4.7 but I run it daily at 4.5

Grab the BIOS from here.

The only CPU you can upgrade to is an i7 7700K, which is kind of a waste of money as you already have a 6700. Coffee Lake 8600K/8700K would need a new motherboard.

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Awesome, thanks for the much needed info. I been in many forums with little to no luck so this is great. How do I know what version to flash ?
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You have a Z170 board, so grab the modified BIOS from here, flash it, and OC your 6700. My 6700 non-K will hit 4.7 but I run it daily at 4.5

Grab the BIOS from here.

The only CPU you can upgrade to is an i7 7700K, which is kind of a waste of money as you already have a 6700. Coffee Lake 8600K/8700K would need a new motherboard.
This isn't going to help. None of the motherboards listed in that link are Dell motherboards.

As for what you should upgrade to, it's hard to know without knowing what you're trying to accomplish. The most generic answer would be wait for Z390 and grab one of the upcoming Intel processors. It's almost never worth it to buy faster RAM for an Intel system. The performance difference would only be noticeable in benchmarks.

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main goal was to run more smaller memory modules at a higher mhz. example I currently have 1 stick of 16gb ddr4 2133 but would like to run 4 sticks of 4gb or 8gb at 2666-3200 whatever the max I can get this MB to see.
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If it's a Z170 chipset it's still possible to flash a modified BIOS to base clock OC, prebuilt or not ... but you're not gonna find one

There's no benefit to running 4 sticks over 2 on Z170 ... and there really isn't going to be much of a performance gain going for dual channel either.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1...single-channel









Save your money for a more worthwhile upgrade.

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main goal was to run more smaller memory modules at a higher mhz. example I currently have 1 stick of 16gb ddr4 2133 but would like to run 4 sticks of 4gb or 8gb at 2666-3200 whatever the max I can get this MB to see.
There isn't much performance to be gained from RAM. In terms of gaming, you're looking at higher 1% and 0.1% lows. It doesn't take extensive research to simply replace your RAM with a 2666 MHz kit.

Why do you want to maximize RAM? There's diminishing returns past 16 GB. If you want to add capacity, identify the DIMM currently in your system and try to buy that specific DIMM to pair with it. Then you can try overclocking them to 2666 MHz. You should be able to overclock your current DIMM. Any other Z170 motherboard would probably allow you to overclock it past 2666 MHz, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dell limits you. Another reason to avoid buying pre-built.

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thanks for the info, my friend and I ran a small test adding smaller memory modules on his system and he seem to get a nice bump in FPS on his games. we tried 1 stick 16gb 3000mhz vs 2 sticks of 8 3000mhz. the improvement varied game to game but overall on average was 5-20 fps constantly. not sure where to go from here lol
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we tried 1 stick 16gb 3000mhz vs 2 sticks of 8 3000mhz. the improvement varied game to game but overall on average was 5-20 fps constantly
unless your friend is running an APU you're not going to get those kind of changes. should be kind of obvious if you've got a 15 FPS spread that something's funky.

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well looks like I'm going to be looking for a new board and case to be able to repurpose my current components
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