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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-19-2018, 01:41 PM - Thread Starter
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Help me choose correct build

Hi everyone! I'm building new pc for 1440p(2160p) gaming.
What I have already:
PSU - Corsair RM850X
HDD+nvme m2,
be quiet silent base 800 case
be quiet dark rock pro 4cooler
fan controller,peripherals,windows 10

Mostly on daily basis I'm playing World of Tanks,but I always play AAA titles for story mode.
I don't stream
I don't render
I don't do video/audio editing or large file compression or such things.

I want to buy some nice 32 or 34 1440p/2160p monitor and also I will connect my 55' TV to pc for movies/youtube/browsing etc.

I was patiently waiting for 9th intel generation,new rtx gpus,new mobos,benchmarks etc to make some decision in which I hope you will help me.

I need help in choosing cpu.mobo and gpu,well I guess 16gb(2x8gb) g.skill aegis 3000 with cl16 will be enough?

So should I take 9700k+z390 board or 2700x+x470 ? (I hate intels and nvidias price politics,but...)
What about GPU? I guess 1080ti is some kind of sweet spot at this moment ?
Thanks in advance

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I have afew Ryzen cpu's 2200g/1400/1600 and afew Radeons as I also play WoT my current testing is with the 2200g paired with XFX RX 570 as everything is set to default and I was watching a youtube video as Fire Strike ran this score http://www.3dmark.com/fs/16771588 as this came off the shelve of a local Best Buy and out of the box clocks as I play Ultra 1080p WoT with it .

I don't know how review sites test Radeon cards but on a Ryzen system once you take it off balance profile to performance profile with in toolbar it will make the card run a bit faster as I not 100% thinking in that Intel cpu's make Radeon cards faster but 4K is more about the gpu in WoT as needing 8Gb of Vram as my 290x plays High 4K 60Hz as it's 4Gb is it's limit but as for Nvidia my eye would be on 1070GTX price as to be a round $300 to buy new.

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Given the resolutions at which you plan on gaming, there's a lower priority placed on the CPU. Any Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 would be more than adequate for you, especially for gaming at 4K. Intel is preferred for high refresh rate gaming since it is objectively better in gaming specifically, but the gap closes at 1440p and 2160p where high frame rates are more difficult and expensive to attain.

As for the GPU, the GTX 1080 Ti makes the most sense for 2160p. The RTX would make sense at the right price, but I don't think it's available for that price yet. MSRP for the RTX 2080 would represent a decent value given its performance is similar to the GTX 1080 Ti. The only thing I would worry about concerning the GTX 1080 Ti is drivers crippling performance. Even still, I'm not that worried because the GeForce 30 series should be on 7nm and make for an ideal upgrade for Pascal users. AMD should be releasing 7nm GPUs in the coming months, but nothing suggests they will have anything competitive for enthusiasts. Vega 64 is their best offering at the moment and it competes more favorably with the GTX 1080. If you end up choosing a 1440p monitor, I would consider the GTX 1070 the bare minimum and highly recommend the GTX 1080. The GTX 1080 Ti can definitely be justified considering you plan on playing AAA titles. Vega 64 would enter the conversation at 1440p.

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So this video:

Gaming on 1440p with 2700x vs 9700k brings almost no difference (5%) and on 4K they have 0 difference,I don't know what to do. 2700x is 290$ on ebay and 9700k is 410$ on amazon but I guess in several days or couple of weeks it goes down to 370$,money isn't really a problem here,since difference is 80-90$,I jsut want to be sure I spend money in correct way,also what about motherboards price difference,which mobo I need for ryzen and which one for intel ?

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Simple. ASROCK TAICHI. Great on both platforms. The 9700K will require a cooler. More than $80-90.

If 4K 60hz is what you are aiming for then I'd be more worried about the gpu.
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For the price $149 current a 2600 would be my pick as the happy balance and spent your extra money on something else like a bigger M.2 drive as they fill up fast if 4K is the plan as to hold the game there for faster input of information .

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An M.2 drive won't fill up any quicker than a SATA or PCI-e drive. Drives are already accounted for anyway. NVMe drives also have no effect on gaming at any resolution.

That video confirms what we have said here: the CPU matters less at 1440p than 1080p and is practically irrelevant at 4K. If the difference between getting a GTX 1080 Ti and 1080 is the difference between an R5 2600 and R7 2700X, the choice is pretty clear.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
An M.2 drive won't fill up any quicker than a SATA or PCI-e drive. Drives are already accounted for anyway. NVMe drives also have no effect on gaming at any resolution.

Even so, you can get a NVME drive for ~$30 more than a AHCI/SATA one now. There really isn't a reason not to for a high end system. The 1TB Pilot NVME drive dropped under $200 about a week after I ordered and it's hovering at the $200 mark currently.

Unless you're on a tight budget ... grab an NVME drive. They're neat and you can dick wave at the SATA bois.

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Guys I'm going from ssd sata to nvme m2 anyways,that is already decided. Main point of this thread is cpu/gpu

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i've had my 4K since 2015 and used to run with just 2 R9 290s. Loved it. A single 1080 Ti will definitely handle 4K and prolly at high settings. Not max but in 4k, even medium looks stunning.



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