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Should I upgrade from the i5 2500k @4.7 GHz?

I've been rocking the 2500k overclocked to 4.7ghz (a overclock champion!) for many years now, along with 8gb of DDR3 1600mhz, a nvidia 1070 and a 950 Evo SSD. I play some FPS games, with the HTC Vive or with my 1440p monitor, browse the web and watch some movies. Since the performance improvements on the CPUs launched since then have been small between each generation I've been delaying the decision to upgrade since I'm going to need new CPU, new motherboard and new RAM, which is a 500 euros investment, at least and memory prices were outrageous until now.
Did anyone here went from an overclocked 2500k to the AMD 2700x or to the Intel 9700k, for instance? Are there noticeable performance differences in real world usage?

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You wont notice anything on the front end of performance in day to day operation unless you do heavy compute loads. At best you will see some 1ish fps gain for each 10fps for gaming as a general figure. So basically if your getting 100 FPS in a game, you might see 110FPS in the same game and so forth. Though some CPU intensive games may yield better performance gains if they are bottle necking you. The CPU in your current rig is still decent enough that honestly, you likely wont even notice the upgrade unless you police frame rates.

I am in the same boat as you, a FX-8350 @ 5Ghz pushing a just purchased RTX2060. When I did step back and research it, I discovered exactly what was outlined above. Id almost say, tweak your system a bit, eek out a bit more performance wherever you can, and wait for at least another generation. Unless of course the itch has got you.
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You wont notice anything on the front end of performance in day to day operation unless you do heavy compute loads. At best you will see some 1ish fps gain for each 10fps for gaming as a general figure. So basically if your getting 100 FPS in a game, you might see 110FPS in the same game and so forth. Though some CPU intensive games may yield better performance gains if they are bottle necking you. The CPU in your current rig is still decent enough that honestly, you likely wont even notice the upgrade unless you police frame rates.



I am in the same boat as you, a FX-8350 @ 5Ghz pushing a just purchased RTX2060. When I did step back and research it, I discovered exactly what was outlined above. Id almost say, tweak your system a bit, eek out a bit more performance wherever you can, and wait for at least another generation. Unless of course the itch has got you.
Thanks a lot for your input. I've researched your CPU and while it has 8 cores the performance is indeed more or less the same of the 2500k. But from what I've read some users state that such an upgrade removes any kind of micro stuttering within games since the minimum frames go up.
Still, I would love if someone who indeed did such an upgrade would chime in and give us his empirical opinion
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You wont notice anything on the front end of performance in day to day operation unless you do heavy compute loads. At best you will see some 1ish fps gain for each 10fps for gaming as a general figure. So basically if your getting 100 FPS in a game, you might see 110FPS in the same game and so forth. Though some CPU intensive games may yield better performance gains if they are bottle necking you. The CPU in your current rig is still decent enough that honestly, you likely wont even notice the upgrade unless you police frame rates.

I am in the same boat as you, a FX-8350 @ 5Ghz pushing a just purchased RTX2060. When I did step back and research it, I discovered exactly what was outlined above. Id almost say, tweak your system a bit, eek out a bit more performance wherever you can, and wait for at least another generation. Unless of course the itch has got you.
No offence but don't spread bad info please, as this is just not true.
Going from a 2500k, which is a 4 core 4 thread CPU to a new gen CPU is a huge difference. Pretty much most games will yield a decent performance boost.
I went from a 2600k at 4.8ghz to this 8700k at 4.8Ghz and while FPS were still high and decent with the 2600k, in CPU bound games like Mafia 3, Crysis 3, Assassins Creed, Watchdogs etc I could notice a decent jump in the minimum FPS. Need for Speed for example, cruising around town would dip to 55 60FPS from 75hz and it would stay rock solid at 75FPS after the upgrade, and this is with the 2600k, which has 8 threads.
Upgrading from a 2500k, regardless of how fast it runs, be it even 5Ghz, to a modern day CPU, say along the lines of 9700k, 8700k, 2700x or even 9900k, will be a simply massive improvement.

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No offence but don't spread bad info please, as this is just not true.

Going from a 2500k, which is a 4 core 4 thread CPU to a new gen CPU is a huge difference. Pretty much most games will yield a decent performance boost.

I went from a 2600k at 4.8ghz to this 8700k at 4.8Ghz and while FPS were still high and decent with the 2600k, in CPU bound games like Mafia 3, Crysis 3, Assassins Creed, Watchdogs etc I could notice a decent jump in the minimum FPS. Need for Speed for example, cruising around town would dip to 55 60FPS from 75hz and it would stay rock solid at 75FPS after the upgrade, and this is with the 2600k, which has 8 threads.

Upgrading from a 2500k, regardless of how fast it runs, be it even 5Ghz, to a modern day CPU, say along the lines of 9700k, 8700k, 2700x or even 9900k, will be a simply massive improvement.
Thanks for your answer as well.
What about everything else except games, did you notice a big difference in performance?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Cryptedvick View Post
No offence but don't spread bad info please, as this is just not true.
Going from a 2500k, which is a 4 core 4 thread CPU to a new gen CPU is a huge difference. Pretty much most games will yield a decent performance boost.
I went from a 2600k at 4.8ghz to this 8700k at 4.8Ghz and while FPS were still high and decent with the 2600k, in CPU bound games like Mafia 3, Crysis 3, Assassins Creed, Watchdogs etc I could notice a decent jump in the minimum FPS. Need for Speed for example, cruising around town would dip to 55 60FPS from 75hz and it would stay rock solid at 75FPS after the upgrade, and this is with the 2600k, which has 8 threads.
Upgrading from a 2500k, regardless of how fast it runs, be it even 5Ghz, to a modern day CPU, say along the lines of 9700k, 8700k, 2700x or even 9900k, will be a simply massive improvement.
Go look up the CPUs tested across the board with the same GPU then come back here. The most extreme variation will be found at the topside of 30FPS and that is scaled to games already pushing well beyond 100FPS. This isn't false information, its PURE fact.

Your perceived improvements are a matter of opinion, which is perfectly fine by anyone's standards. But the evidence is well documented that what I have said is true. The only real time he will see any improvements in gaming is on the bottom side FPS where he is struggling to run a game.

To top even that off, you repeated EXACTLY what I said just in different words, in that he will see improvements in CPU bound games. Which means you have read/interpreted my post incorrectly.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Paps.pt View Post
I've been rocking the 2500k overclocked to 4.7ghz (a overclock champion!) for many years now, along with 8gb of DDR3 1600mhz, a nvidia 1070 and a 950 Evo SSD. I play some FPS games, with the HTC Vive or with my 1440p monitor, browse the web and watch some movies. Since the performance improvements on the CPUs launched since then have been small between each generation I've been delaying the decision to upgrade since I'm going to need new CPU, new motherboard and new RAM, which is a 500 euros investment, at least and memory prices were outrageous until now.
Did anyone here went from an overclocked 2500k to the AMD 2700x or to the Intel 9700k, for instance? Are there noticeable performance differences in real world usage?

Cheers 🙂
I went from a 2500k @ 4.8GHz to a 1700X @ 3.9GHz and didn't notice a huge difference in most games but everything definitely felt smoother, especially in games that utilize more than 4 threads. I would say that unless you have the itch to build a new system or play games that require lots of threads keep rocking what you have. I would overclock that RAM to 2133MHz if you keep your system. It should help some with minimum FPS.

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I went from a 2500k @ 4.8GHz to a 1700X @ 3.9GHz and didn't notice a huge difference in most games but everything definitely felt smoother, especially in games that utilize more than 4 threads. I would say that unless you have the itch to build a new system or play games that require lots of threads keep rocking what you have. I would overclock that RAM to 2133MHz if you keep your system. It should help some with minimum FPS.
I dont think I can overclock a rated 1600Mhz DDR3 set to 2133Mhz. Can I?

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I dont think I can overclock a rated 1600Mhz DDR3 set to 2133Mhz. Can I?

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It all depends on the sticks. Double check specified voltages and timings and start playing. I would think you can at least get your RAM to 1866MHz. Give it a shot and let us know how it goes.

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You wont notice anything on the front end of performance in day to day operation unless you do heavy compute loads. At best you will see some 1ish fps gain for each 10fps for gaming as a general figure. So basically if your getting 100 FPS in a game, you might see 110FPS in the same game and so forth. Though some CPU intensive games may yield better performance gains if they are bottle necking you. The CPU in your current rig is still decent enough that honestly, you likely wont even notice the upgrade unless you police frame rates.

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Rofl!
I upgraded from a 4690k to a 4790k at the same speed plus 16gb of 2400 Mhz cas11 ram and noticed a huge difference with a GTX1080 running 1440p. That's an upgrade in the same generation at the same speed! Imagine what an 8700k or 2700x would have done! We're talking 50% improvements AT 1440P! Improvement in some areas just becasue the game has enough threads now.

To suggest that upgrading from 4c/4t to 6c/6t and up does almost nothing is laughable and assumes you game with a lower FPS cap or are just unable to comprehend data. Maybe if all you playing is games from 2006 there won't be much difference..or if your running 4k with a 1070 rofl

This guy is wrong af. 4c/4t is a huge limitation for almost any Pascal GPU. Your case is even worse since you have a much slower 4c/4t CPU than I had.

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