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post #11 of 72 (permalink) Old 05-09-2019, 05:44 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Belial View Post
So I used to be really big into building PCs, overclocking, etc, but life has happened and well now I don't do that so much anymore. However it's been a good 5+ years since I built my last pc so looking for a new one and everything is different now.

My needs aren't very demanding, just general gaming and I might stream or record stuff. I have plenty of funds so I'm not worried about spending too much. I will probably do a minor CPU overclock and maybe RAM but won't push it like I did in the past.

I was thinking about buying an Intel i9-9900k but not too sure on what else. Just a nice Gigabyte board (they've worked well in the past but don't know what's changed or if an Asus or something would be better). A nice SSD (just some samsung ssd I guess, I have an 860 evo I could use). I have no idea what RAM to get, probably 2x16gb. Not sure on a PSU, maybe some seasonic... A NZXT AIO 280mm cooler.

Not sure on case, I might even want to go with like a micro/mini ATX this time around. Just some single GPU...

Thanks.
Because of the bold, I have to recommend Ryzen to you... If you're willing to wait for the 3000 series, you should do that. If not, I threw something together here...;

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($290.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($247.80 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.86 @ Amazon)
Total: $2070.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Water cooling is overrated. A good air cooler is much better. An even better air cooler would be the Noctua NH-D15. Difference is not huge in performance, but, it costs $30+ more.

I picked the Gigabyte board because you like Gigabyte, but there are better options. Just give a sign if you're interested.

Alternative video card if you don't care about RTX, more power hungry at stock (when both are OC's they use similar amounts of power), but does offer double the RAM;
Video Card: XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card ($679.99 @ Amazon)
A more recent comparison (reviews are already a bit outdated);
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...etter_buy_now/

Case is also a taste thing aside from its use, so, it's a good idea to look around yourself.

PSU might be a bit overkill. If you want something else, use this as reference to choose a quality one... https://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ist-21-legacy/

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post #12 of 72 (permalink) Old 05-09-2019, 05:47 AM
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A Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB M.2 is $80 cheaper and wont be slower for gaming so waste of money unless OP will be doing video editing as well
Also note that the WD Blue HDD´s are the least reliable WD sells so upgrade to a Black, Red Pro or Gold they cost more but they are also far more reliable

Edit: sory i forgot the WD Gold name has been discontinued and they are now called the WD Ultrastar after the old HGST Ultrastar

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I second the ryzen & Vega VII recommendations if you are doing streaming and video editing. Your're gonna need dem cores & vid memory. It is expected AMD to possibly announce a 12/24 or 16/32 chip. That is the one you want.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Belial View Post
Back in my day it was 2 cores, and maybe 4 cores for AAA titles. i7s were reserved for streaming, back when justin.tv was around and twitch wasn't even a thing. My i5 4560k build is more than powerful enough still, I'm just running into some really weird issues that I can't explain and it's time enough to build a new pc anyways (computer wasn't posting or booting, literally replaced every single component and the issue still occurred, and then it stopped, but that's a whole other issue).

I can afford a 9900K. I used to have the 4770k and that was perfect, but the i5 is lacking for when I want to stream or record stuff.
16GB probably isn't enough, I feel like I come close to using that up. 32GB please.

I might do that fancy 1tb plugin drive. Samsung 970 Pro 1TB. I never use much storage space up (although I did eventually after 5 years start filling up my 250gb samsung 830 and that got a bit annoying).

I'll go with the Asus maximus board. Maybe the wifi because why not although I always use wired... maybe when im on the road or something the wireless would be nice. whatever.

Honestly don't need a great GPU. That's an easy swap out anytime I want. I play mostly CPU driven games when I do game.

Probably just get some Seasonic PSU. I'm not sure which one though, power consumption has grown these days it seems. PSU is a big deal to me, I've had quite a few PSU's die on me because I have a lot of dog hair get sucked up by them (it's not that much but after some years I guess it acculumates even with regular cleaning). I'd probably need modular because of the inevitable PSU death. Honestly I prefer non-modular for looks but my last PC build was SO complex that I'm really looking for an extremely easy computer. Something that if things fail in the future, they're easy to swap out. I pretty much had to gut my current build just to replace the most basic of components for troubleshooting.

Literally had to remove massive custom plexiglass panels I put around the PSU and around wiring. They looked sexy as hell but having to remove multiple layers of plexiglass and paneling. Ugh. Not fun. My fault.

Not sure on cases. What's a cool case. Maybe the nzxt 500 series?
Well now I just have a lot of questions:

Why did you go from an i7 4770 to a 4th gen i5? Why did you downgrade your CPU?

What kind of issues are you having?

What games are you playing that are CPU intensive? Are you trying to do 1080p120hz+? 4K60hz?

Is the i5 you have now overclocked? What are the specs of your current PC?

i7 7700kK @4.2ghz
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Money is not a limiting factor for me.

Thanks for the input NightAntilli but I don't see how a Ryzen 2700X is better than a 9900k. Value is not a primary concern of mine. I'd never use a HDD, I've been using a 250gb SSD for 5 years now.

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Why did you go from an i7 4770 to a 4th gen i5? Why did you downgrade your CPU?
I was in a position where I had a 4770k and a 4670k and decided to just go with the i5 and sell off the i7. Probably should've done it the other way around, but it's not like I really did things that demanded the i7 over the i5 so whatever.

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No issues. Stuff like SC2 or pubg. I will throw a quick oc if i remember to on boot. My computer has been through a lot.

As for the CLC issues, they are cleaner, look nicer, and perform better. They aren't as good as custom loops, but they are more convenient than them. They also hold up to traveling better than air coolers do. As shown in my signature, I've spent plenty of time playing with different cooling systems.

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How fast is ur current ram?

If I were u id just get a 4770k or 4790k. Those will hold up just fine. i5 might be starting to be a bottleneck in a few games, but a 4th gen i7 would for sure be fine, especially if u OC it.


Now is a pointless time to upgrade you CPU because no games will really care. There's nothing that doesn't run perfectly fine on a 4th gen i7. Save the upgrade for a year or two down the road when ps5 is coming out and more demanding games are coming out too.

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Money is not a limiting factor for me.

Thanks for the input NightAntilli but I don't see how a Ryzen 2700X is better than a 9900k. Value is not a primary concern of mine.
If you really don't care about how much money you put out, then by all means go for the 9900k right now. It is the fastest right now at almost everything. Just know that the AM4 platform will soon allow you to go for or upgrade to a 12C/24T or 16C/32T CPU at high clock speeds, without changing the motherboard. The 2700X is the best AMD has to offer right now, until the Ryzen 3000 series rolls around. Those should be announced near the end of this month, and most likely will cause Intel to drop prices shortly after.

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I'd never use a HDD, I've been using a 250gb SSD for 5 years now.
I figured that since you said you would record stuff, you'd need the storage space... It's the reason there was an SSD and a 5400RPM HDD.
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In my experience, you shouldn't really try to wait to upgrade to a new CPU because you'll want to upgrade your mobo to take advantage of the new CPU features too.

I assume I'll stick with windows 7 as well. Any reason to use windows 10?

I think I'm gonna go with:

NZXT H500i
9900k
Asus maximus (maybe or maybe not the wifi version)
Samsung 970 pro 1tb
nzxt 280mm aio clc
G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB or maybe Royal. 2x16gb DDR4 3200 CL14
Asus 2080 strix
Seasonic 750w platinum focus

Seems to be multiple versions of the asus 2080 strix, I presume just get the cheapest since they're all the same cards and will OC to the same point?

I should probably get a new monitor too, right now using 2x 1080 monitors. I'm not sure what monitors are out now. I like my gloss for my main monitor. Should probably pick a new mouse and keyboard too.

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Buy an AIO kit from EK, Swiftech or Alphacool instead of that CLC rubbish
As for Windows 7 all MS support updates and patches ends at the end of the year which will make it more and more vulnerable to attacks

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In about 3 weeks, AMD will come out with Ryzen 3000 series. CPUs with 6 cores as entry level to the high-end 16 cores. You might want to seriously wait before deciding to upgrade.

If the rumor happens to be true, the 12 core cpu will have a boost clocks of 5GHz in one or two of its cores costing under 400$.
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