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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 06-14-2019, 03:24 PM - Thread Starter
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Build recommendation requested AMD Ryzen5/7 or vs Intel i5 Gen9

Dear all,

I am trying to build a computer that can dual between my work computer ( largely web browsing say 50 tabs at a time, MS teams, slack, vpn, three brower windows, mails etc always running , occassional pic/video edits are also needed. My son is looking at playing fornite and in the future may be better games that he encounters @ say max 100fps. My monitors are at 75Hz not the gaming ones running at 1080P so full HD gaming is what we are looking for. May be at some point will get a 1440/144hz desktop. Please advice on the pros and cons of the following rigs and whether they are good choices for now in terms of near future platform changes.

Build Option 1
Processor option 1: Intel 6 Cores 6 Threads Core i5-9400F Coffee Lake (2.9GHz,9M Cache,LGA 1151,14nm) CPU BOX HK$ 1185
Processor option 2: Intel 6C6T Core i5-9600K Coffee Lake (3.7GHz,9M Cache,LGA 1151,14nm,Unlocked) CPU BOX w/o Fan HK$ 1990
Graphics card: ASUSROG-STRIX-RX590-8G-GAMING 8GB GDDR5 (DI-AX590S8) HK$ 1999
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME H370M-PLUS H370,DDR-4,LGA 1151,USB3.0,SATA3 6Gb/s,M.ATX M/B HK$ 915
Powersupply: Corsair 750 gold edition.
RAM: Compatible 16GB

Build option 2:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 YD2700BBAFBOX 8C/16T, 4.1GHz, 20MB Cache, Socket AM4 CPU BOX w/Cooler HK$ 1760
MoBo: ASRock X470 Taichi X470, DDR-4, AM4 Socket, Intel GbE Lan,USB3.1 Gen2 Type A/C, ATX M/B HK$ 1585
Graphics card: ASUSROG-STRIX-RX590-8G-GAMING 8GB GDDR5 (DI-AX590S8) HK$ 1999
Powersupply: Corsair 750 gold edition.
RAM: Compatible 16GB

Thanks in advance for your valuable advice.

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buying anything now is silly, 7nm Ryzen is 3 weeks away.

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In July 7, the Ryzen 3000 7nm series cpus will be out. I suggest you wait.

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As stated earlier, definitely wait until Ryzen 3000 is launched. It looks to be a monster.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
In July 7, the Ryzen 3000 7nm series cpus will be out. I suggest you wait.
The thing is I am going for a vacation to hong kong where the prices are atleast 30% less than than of India. So trying to take that advantage. Again I am going only for 10 days so by the time the new release happens I will be back home. Now how about buying a compatible motherboard only, hope they are released. May be I can pick a 3k compatible motherboard and buy rest of the components and leave the process alone to be purchased after the launch once I come back. Can get the PSUs or possibly a good 24 inch 144hz display instead.

How about rest of the components, memory also will change as per the CPU or can I get a recommendation pls? Which Ryzen 3k motherboard, overclocking is good to have but not a must. I have lot of sata drives, 3/4, planning to run m.2 and couple of SSDs as of now. As of now planned GPU is a 1060 or 580x.

The below processors looks within my budget. I can see the 4.4 without any overclock which is great as I am running a 8350 oc at 4.3Ghz x21.5.
Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329
Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249

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Not all X470/B350 boards are going to support 7nm. There's no list yet (AFAIK) of which ones will/won't.

Both the 3700 and 3600 would be a huge upgrade over an 8350.

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AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
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As shown on and website B450 X470 and X570 will support 3000 series. They say check for 3000 ready logo. Limitations could be there to see full potential without actually seeing the specs of launch possibly.

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If your buying in Hong Kong, why don't you just contact HK resellers to reserve one for you. For sure, they would want your business and you can even negotiate the price down or get some bonus items for free. They will have your PC done in short time and you just need to pick it up. They even offer services to build full custom loop PC's. You can message the seller through wechat/whatsapp. The site to look at is https://www.price.com.hk. The contact numbers will be there also.

This is much better method than wasting your time walking through those computer malls. There's better stuff you can do with your time there. I don't really like the shopping experience in many of those malls (I've been to them for years and I prefer dealing with North American stores), they are just too crowded and its not comfortable buying things. If your going watercooling route, be aware Hong Kong has extemely limited selection of water cooling parts. Its bad enough, that my friends who watercool there have to order parts in from overseas.

For people helping you budget builds, please don't use US pricing. It is not relevant in Hong Kong. Usewww.price.com.hk. From my experience there, you can get descent gaming rig for around 6000HKD or less (including windows).


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I recommend you guys go look at certain item pricing in Hong Kong like routers lol. Seriously, they are like 50-100% more than in North America. Everytime an router dies there (it happens to electronics because the weather is humid), I almost always have to buy an router here and bring it back to Hong Kong.

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There's only a handful of boards I would say are worth buying before X570 launch , the ones less than $250 such as Crosshair VII Hero with 10x 60A powerstages and daisy chain memory (for 12-16 cores), Aorus Gaming 7 with 10x 40A powerstages, Taichi with 12x 40A powerblocks (for 8 core Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 12 cores) and possibly ~$130 B450 Pro Carbon (for 6 core Ryzen 5). STRIX X470-F is probably not strong enough for 12 cores but should be fine for 8 cores. If you don't own a Ryzen CPU already the Crosshair VII Hero can flash without a CPU but the other boards from Asrock/Gigabyte pretty much can't so that leaves Crosshair VII Hero and B450 Pro Carbon (if you are intent on 6 cores).

X570 boards are supposedly around $180-350 , midtier around $200-250.

X570 boards are stronger throughout the stack , a typical X570 board has 12 phases of 40-50A powerstages , even midrange ~$200 X570s are running 12x 50A Vishay "SiC" powerstages (~$180 X570 TUF board and ~$200 Aorus Elite).


I would not buy any Intel CPU at this point though and an RX 590 is basically an overclocked RX 580 (which is a RX 480) so it's not worth paying a premium over a RX 580.


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X470 Crosshair VII Hero 2300-2510 HKD
X470 Gaming 7 1819-1909 HKD
X470 Taichi 1585-1630 HKD
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Other thing to consider if your buying motherboard is are you concerned about getting dead on arrival motherboard. That reasons i buy motherboards locally always, if anything goes wrong in the building phase, I can go back to the store and get store replacement within 15-30 days of purchase.

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