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post #31 of 90 (permalink) Old 07-18-2019, 08:41 AM
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Sorry to break it to you but "Rampage V Extreme, 5960x with 32GB Samsung 3000Mhz CL15, all for $550." is hardly worth $550. Ryzen has beaten it long ago in performance and value. The only thing having any value in that is the RAM but even that now should not be as overpriced as it was 1-2 years ago. So you pretty much paid same money for a used old power hungry Intel system that you could have spent on a brand new with warranty AMD system consuming fraction of the power.

If you wanted that extra 1-2% fps performance in low quality games at high fps you should have gotten that overpriced 9900K that costs $550 alone.
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post #32 of 90 (permalink) Old 07-18-2019, 08:49 AM
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Still don't understand the point of this thread, you're just justifying your purchase of old intel processor, i don't really care why its your money but this thread is pointless and should be lock!

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To me "much faster" means 50% more single thread.
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Also Ryzen 3000 is fast and low power but I don't think it's cool at all, it's just made from low grade reject server chips
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Don't think so, my 2500k @ 5ghz really struggled at 1440p with my 1080 Ti.
Nice oranges(4core cpu and 1440p) to apples(i7 8c/16t 4k) comparison. I am not going to straw man with you, plenty of reviews and data out there go against your opinion. Your rebuttal implies nothing about 4k gaming.

You can make a thread about disadvantages of cpu architectures of brand new cpus and various reasons why you didn't buy them for gaming. You instead bought older worse hardware using gaming as your primary target. All of which are pointless because you game @ 4k. Someone comes along to point this out and they are "upset".

Even the idea of a good deal on a 5960x is wavering when you game at 4k.Your cpu range(x58/x79 Xeons etc) is a lot wider field of options and GPU bound if your so stuck on intel. Throwing in AMD cpu used offerings is just icing on the cake.

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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Sorry to break it to you but "Rampage V Extreme, 5960x with 32GB Samsung 3000Mhz CL15, all for $550." is hardly worth $550.
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Ryzen has beaten it long ago in performance and value. The only thing having any value in that is the RAM but even that now should not be as overpriced as it was 1-2 years ago.
If you wanted that extra 1-2% fps performance in low quality games at high fps you should have gotten that overpriced 9900K that costs $550 alone.
To restate what has been said before: Even if you were to go with a 3700X, X570 and 32GB DDR4 you'd still be looking at CAD1100-1300. Considering he stated this is to tide him over until the next generation is more tempting to go for, I don't see your point other than to be abrasive and convince people that your opinion is the correct one while disregarding any circumstances.


Additionally, when he does resell it - it will lose less value than a new system would.



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So you pretty much paid same money for a used old power hungry Intel system that you could have spent on a brand new with warranty AMD system consuming fraction of the power.
Citation required. Please find a Ryzen 3700X system for CAD750 incl tax. Also, the power draw thing is very moot, saving a few cents on a power bill should not be an influencing factor which may result in purchasing a potentially worse product.




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Still don't understand the point of this thread, you're just justifying your purchase of old intel processor, i don't really care why its your money but this thread is pointless and should be lock!
Enforcing rules because you don't agree with someone's opinion is extremely dangerous line to tread.






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Nice oranges(4core cpu and 1440p) to apples(i7 8c/16t 4k) comparison. I am not going to straw man with you, plenty of reviews and data out there go against your opinion. Your rebuttal implies nothing about 4k gaming.



Well, your words were literally:
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Except this whole theory falls apart @ gaming 4k. You could literally find many old intel cpu thats cost less than 100$ usd and game @ 4k60 while pretty much having identical performance.
Ergo my comparison. Even a 2500k used will cost more than $100 so I assumed you were thinking of a CPU even worse than that.

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Quote: Originally Posted by jamaican voodoo View Post
Still don't understand the point of this thread, you're just justifying your purchase of old intel processor, i don't really care why its your money but this thread is pointless and should be lock!

Nah, it's fine for now.

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It's very sad that another thread went down south so quickly.


Can't we all take things a bit more tolerantly?


1. Yes, the OP did purchase an old system. But for pretty good penny, and it's well worth the relatively minor investment.
2. From the "intonation" of his posts I gather that OP has something against AMD's lineup. But I accept that and move along. - Other members see it too, some maybe choose to turn a blind eye, or honestly don't percieve it.

3. The 5960x is still nowhere near the point in time to be completely dismissed as obsolete. Even for gaming.


To be honest, if I were him, I'd make the same choice, although for different reasons (price/performance). Not because I dislike PGA or fancy symmetrical memory alignment - which I can understand; I know people who really appreciate such looks. Not because AMD offers "reject low grade server chips", and not because the 9900k exists.


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To restate what has been said before: Even if you were to go with a 3700X, X570 and 32GB DDR4 you'd still be looking at CAD1100-1300. Considering he stated this is to tide him over until the next generation is more tempting to go for, I don't see your point other than to be abrasive and convince people that your opinion is the correct one while disregarding any circumstances.


Additionally, when he does resell it - it will lose less value than a new system would.




Citation required. Please find a Ryzen 3700X system for CAD750 incl tax. Also, the power draw thing is very moot, saving a few cents on a power bill should not be an influencing factor which may result in purchasing a potentially worse product.





Enforcing rules because you don't agree with someone's opinion is extremely dangerous line to tread.











Well, your words were literally:

Ergo my comparison. Even a 2500k used will cost more than $100 so I assumed you were thinking of a CPU even worse than that.
Did you see i said Xeons? You have options like e5-1650v2 as a quick example its ~100$ online.


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Did you see i said Xeons? You have options like e5-1650v2 as a quick example its ~100$ online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJLOcC0WWkQ

Actually, you didn't. You said "any old Intel CPU for $100" or something along those lines.

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