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post #51 of 77 (permalink) Old 10-21-2019, 04:29 PM
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The decision seems to be so easy, yet it is so hard.

I really want to just go with the 3700x and be done with it, but something in the back of my head has doubts. That voice whispers i9 ever so gently.

I just hate the thought to invest good money into something that may age too soon (R7), even if spending 200 Euro more looks painful right now, I wonder if it will not be a better decision in the future?


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I may upgrade down the line, but now I focus on the CPU and related necessities.
Ryzen seems to be more future proof as a platform so you can always upgrade to 3900X or 3950X if one day 16 threads is not enough If anything take the savings from going Ryzen and buy a good PSU

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Wrong. The 9700k beats the 3700x in pretty much all games.
Wrong. The 3700X maintains only a slight disadvantage to the 9900K in games. Meaning that the 9700K and 9900K would have to be equal in performance for your statement to be true.


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Again, thank you all for participating. Although opinions are diverse, it seems most are in favour of the 3700x.

In that case I would need a good motherboard. Don't want to go too low, nor too high. I read that the "ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus" is a good one (Wi-Fi, DisplayPort). Only two PCIe, but I really need one for the GPU.
Wanted to move away from ASUS, but I see MSI boards being criticized and ASUS seems more favourable. Or is there a more suitable option? I'd like to keep it slightly above 200 Euro.

Does the CPU come with thermal paste or I need to buy it separately?

As for RAM. What is better, 3200Mhz CL14 or 3600Mhz CL16. I'd like to keep it within the range of 200 Euro if possible (preferably 32GB).


Edit: MSI MEG X570 Unify seems far from release and I don't think it will be close to 200 Euro in price. Not sure I'd even need it for a 3700x.

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For ram, pick one that is on this list - https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

For motherboards, the ASRock Taichi comes up quite often as a good mid price range model. The Asus TUF X570 Plus you mention is good too.

Here is a nice article summarizing up the best options for X570 motherboards. The prices are in USD so add 20 euros or so to get the comparable price for you. - https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-x570-motherboards/

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For ram, pick one that is on this list - https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

For motherboards, the ASRock Taichi comes up quite often as a good mid price range model. The Asus TUF X570 Plus you mention is good too.

Here is a nice article summarizing up the best options for X570 motherboards. The prices are in USD so add 20 euros or so to get the comparable price for you. - https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-x570-motherboards/

Thanks. RAM with Asus TUF X570 Plus and 3700x, would you suggest 2x16GB, or 4x8GB, or is there no difference?
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With AMD the general consensus is to run 4x8gb modules over 2x16gb ones. I chose to go with 2x16gb Crucial Ballistix memory with my last AMD build and regretted the choice as I was limited to 2667mhz and loose timings.

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Myself....still running the i7 3770K, it just plain works great even after all these years. No need to upgrade the CPU given the cost of upgrading vs perf. increase (not much).
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With AMD the general consensus is to run 4x8gb modules over 2x16gb ones. I chose to go with 2x16gb Crucial Ballistix memory with my last AMD build and regretted the choice as I was limited to 2667mhz and loose timings.

Yes, I read 4x8GB is better in that case, but also draws more power.


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Myself....still running the i7 3770K, it just plain works great even after all these years. No need to upgrade the CPU given the cost of upgrading vs perf. increase (not much).

It is a great CPU, nearing seven years and still performing, but the GPU is bottlenecked. Even if it's not just the CPU, the motherboard is old, too. RAM is old, too.

Frankly I don't like to upgrade, but I begin to notice the age of my system.
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Yes, I read 4x8GB is better in that case, but also draws more power.





It is a great CPU, nearing seven years and still performing, but the GPU is bottlenecked. Even if it's not just the CPU, the motherboard is old, too. RAM is old, too.

Frankly I don't like to upgrade, but I begin to notice the age of my system.
One won't notice much of an improvement with DDR4 vs DDR3 if not staring at bench results. Most of those tests are rigged in one manner or another.
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Does anyone know or have an opinion on whether the 10920x and the other similar CPU's will be any good for gaming on the x299 platform?
Not sure if the quad channel ram plays any part.
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