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post #31 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-11-2020, 05:46 PM
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All this is great advice! Really appreciated.
I think the easiest to do is first upgrade gpu. Will look at 1650's, 2060's and 5700's. Easy peasy drop in with not much fuss in Win10. I am tempted to wait a few months til the nvidia ampere rtx 30--'s hit the scene and hope for a price drop in the rtx 20-- series....hmmm...
Will see how that goes before I would go with new mb, cpu, ram, like a nice cheap b450 mb and ryzen 1600 or 3600 maybe. But I am sure Win10 would protest and need a new install, and reinstall of apps...not looking forward to that yet!
Oh, did I mention I am running a custom watercooled loop? Would eventually need a full cover block for whatever gpu I put in there....one more fun expense!

Ahh! 1660SC or Ti, no 1650s for GPU.

Nopenopenope.

Other 2 r ok.
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I'd forget the 2060SC and go with a 1060 6gb card. Almost the same performance and has better connection options - I have one and it's got DP x3, HDMI and DVI plus it can handle 4 monitors.

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My Old system (12 year old son has it now) is a i5-2500k (damn great chip) and still runs games. I just updated the GPU and no issues as in not having everything jacked up graphics wise on the system..just have to turn some setting down but he is happy. Of course it depends on what game(s) you play..we do mostly MMORPGs.

2060 is good and have you looked into the Radeon 5700 by chance?

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Quote: Originally Posted by dsa44 View Post
All this is great advice! Really appreciated.
I think the easiest to do is first upgrade gpu. Will look at 1650's, 2060's and 5700's. Easy peasy drop in with not much fuss in Win10. I am tempted to wait a few months til the nvidia ampere rtx 30--'s hit the scene and hope for a price drop in the rtx 20-- series....hmmm...
Will see how that goes before I would go with new mb, cpu, ram, like a nice cheap b450 mb and ryzen 1600 or 3600 maybe. But I am sure Win10 would protest and need a new install, and reinstall of apps...not looking forward to that yet!
Oh, did I mention I am running a custom watercooled loop? Would eventually need a full cover block for whatever gpu I put in there....one more fun expense!
If you are planning to waterblock the gpu, just go with a reference 5700 or more expensive card. No point spending $150 on a block for a $250 card. Even finding a block will be hard enough for a cheaper card.

I did it in the past, regretted wasting the money. The difference 150 can make to a gpu at the mid range is far more than the difference the waterblock will make. And the block is rarely reusable.
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If you are planning to waterblock the gpu, just go with a reference 5700 or more expensive card. No point spending $150 on a block for a $250 card. Even finding a block will be hard enough for a cheaper card.

I did it in the past, regretted wasting the money. The difference 150 can make to a gpu at the mid range is far more than the difference the waterblock will make. And the block is rarely reusable.
Very good point.....but it is soooo quiet!! But you are right, I may have to forgo the watercooling option at this moment in time. Just need to get a quiet card, LOL

So another quick question..... Is Ray Tracing worth spending the extra bucks? I was thinking of a 1660-Super or 5700 at this point in time.

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Ryzen IS an IPC improvement over Sandy Bridge.

I've been running the old games to test stability. OC'd Ryzen + 5700XT gets much better framerates than the old days, I'm impressed!

Ofc I don't have any graphics options because those went with the invasive hot garbage that AMD bundled and tried to force-feed me with their drivers.

Did I sell my 1060? Hmm..

Gah! I did! Only has 1660 now. Wish I never sold my 970. It was a trooper!

1660 is a card that will run everything pretty good for a decent price.

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Quote: Originally Posted by dsa44 View Post
Very good point.....but it is soooo quiet!! But you are right, I may have to forgo the watercooling option at this moment in time. Just need to get a quiet card, LOL

So another quick question..... Is Ray Tracing worth spending the extra bucks? I was thinking of a 1660-Super or 5700 at this point in time.

Cheers!
Based on early reviews of ray tracing, whats the point? $1000+ gpus for 1080p and sub 100 fps? On something that is below $500, its just not going to be the experience people are expecting. And that is assuming the game even supports the technology. I estimate another 3 years before ray tracing is actually viable and available in most games.
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Quote: Originally Posted by dsa44 View Post
Very good point.....but it is soooo quiet!! But you are right, I may have to forgo the watercooling option at this moment in time. Just need to get a quiet card, LOL

So another quick question..... Is Ray Tracing worth spending the extra bucks? I was thinking of a 1660-Super or 5700 at this point in time.

Cheers!
Ray Tracing is still in it's infancy but my personal preference would be Nvidia due to the driver development. AMD are still having driver issues according to reports from friends.

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Well, thx for all the comments!! I think before I go full-tilt with new mb, etc. I will first try out a 1660 Super for $229. Like this Asus Tuf....

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-...sus-_-14126359

or

https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-GeForc...1876526&sr=8-1


Seems like a good bang for the buck without overkill and too-much-gpu for my oc'd i5-2500k as would be the much more pricey 2060 or 2060S.

Will be a few days yet, as I will have to splice my watercooling hoses after removing the HD7970.

Will keep this updated! Cheers.

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Your definitely Being limited by the GPU more than the CPU. Upgrade the GPU first.

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