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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 03-24-2020, 09:26 PM - Thread Starter
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Just Built my Son A PC Now I Wanna Upgrade.

so just built my son his first PC and i built it as if it was for me. In doing that i have officially built him a PC better than mine. Since mine has a 1080 and a i7-7700k (prime at the time) i was looking to upgrade. Ive decided im going to hold off on the GPU till the 3080 comes out in july. But for CPU im not so sure what to do. my first pc i ever built i went AMD(in 2009) but once i went intel for my next upgrade i never went back. ive been getting intel chips consistently every other year and ive never had any issues and im afraid to make the jump back to AMD but my friend is talking up a big game for the new chips from them. He also has a i7-7700k and is looking to upgrade. My question to you guys is what should i do? I stream to twitch and play games such as COD, destiny, fortnite, control, doom, and possibly back to WoW this coming expansion. Im also going to get 32gb of RAM with upgrade so keep that in mind with price. Budget is $1000 but i dont want to spend $1000k if i dont have to. Bank for buck but dont be afraid.

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post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old 03-24-2020, 10:10 PM
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Definitely AMD. Extra cores/threads will be useful for you if you want to stream games.

I went from an i5 4460 to a Ryzen 5 2600 and now to the Ryzen 7 3700X. Will probably never go back to Intel unless they come out with something groundbreaking.


I recommend a Ryzen 7 3800X + an MSI X570 Unify motherboard + 32GB Trident Z RGB 16-16-16-36 kit. For cooling you can look at a bang-for-buck AIO such as the Arctic Freezer II 280.

EDIT: Those should be in the $800-900 range I think.

You could save a bit by going with the 3700X and a TUF X570-Plus board instead. Up to you.

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Ryzen 7 3700X - 1900MHz FCLK
Motherboard
MSI X470 Gaming Pro - 1.0.0.4B
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Sapphire RX 5700 XT Pulse
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2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3600C15 @3800 14-15-13-27-40 1T 1.52V
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250GB
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2x Samsung 860 Evo 500GB
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Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W
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Phanteks P350X
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Asus VG245HE
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Logitech G710+
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Gigabyte B85M-D3H-A
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Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+ 8GB
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2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury @1600 CL10
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Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
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WD Blue 1TB
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Super Flower Golden King Pro SF-500P14PE 500W 80+ Platinum
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Intel Stock Cooler
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Zalman Z11+
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Here's how I would allocate my money.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($298.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $657.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-26 02:56 EDT-0400

The R7 3700X gives you plenty of CPU power to game and stream from the same system. The motherboard gives you a little future compatibility with PCI-e 4.0, something Intel doesn't currently offer. If you want to save money here, you can get the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX for $115. You give up some features (mainly PCI-e 4.0) but it's also two-thirds the cost. The sweet spot for Zen 2 is 3600 MHz so it's recommended to get a kit rated for that speed. The only other way to save money is stepping down to the R5 3600, but the additional cores and threads would be beneficial for streaming and don't break the budget. Stepping up to the R7 3800X can be justified if you're okay with spending another $40 for a binned processor. I would not recommend the motherboard ($100 more ) or RAM ($90 more) since they don't really fit the bang for buck requirement.

For cooling, I would recommend the Scythe Fuma 2. I can't in good faith recommend an AIO cooler.

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ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX/AC
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EVGA RTX 2070 Super Black Gaming
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Crucial Ballistix
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Samsung 970 Evo
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Samsung 850 Pro
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Samsung 850 Pro
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Seagate FireCuda
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SilverStone FTZ01-E
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post #4 of 46 (permalink) Old 03-26-2020, 03:24 AM - Thread Starter
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I appreciate both your guys input but I’ve watched a few videos mainly this one and it seems the i9 is the one to get in most situations. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwEg7px2ko The i9 has better FPS (not by much) in most situations. I noticed that the 3900x has a big lead tho in future proofing at the cost of FPS today. That thread and core count is out of this world tho and it’s so tempting. I’m afraid to go amd in all honesty. And I know that if I were to get the 3900x that the MOBO is upgrade compatible with the 3950x in sept which is also temping. I might go intel for better FPS today because I can always upgrade tomorrow. I’m happy that amd is finally fighting back.

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Go with a R5 3600 and drop a Ryzen 4000 when it arrives.

Doubt you'll find the need, tho.

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Hi,
Yep 9900k are fairly inexpensive last I looked at micro cemter it was about 480.00 and 9700k around 350.00 both 8 cores.

https://www.microcenter.com/search/s...rtby=pricehigh

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ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
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Titan Xp with copper-plexi Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
D5 pump reservoir combo/ GTX280/ VRM block/ GTX280/ D5 top/ CPU block/ GPU block/ Mora 360/ repeat.
Cooling
MO-RA3 360 PRO stainless steel (25022)
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
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Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
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Redragon Perdition
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Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
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X99 Sabertooth
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EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
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Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
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Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
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EVGA 1000-P2
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2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
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Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
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Red Dragon Perdition
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i9 has better FPS when you don't really need it.

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Hi,
Forgot about the 9700F at 370.00 also a 8 core. all these will drop right in

CPU
i9-9940x With Optimus Foundation copper-plexi and Heatkiller VRM copper-plexi water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper-plexi Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
D5 pump reservoir combo/ GTX280/ VRM block/ GTX280/ D5 top/ CPU block/ GPU block/ Mora 360/ repeat.
Cooling
MO-RA3 360 PRO stainless steel (25022)
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
Other
5.0/https://valid.x86.fr/ez2ifr
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
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Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
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It's hard to recommend Intel when the i9-9900K is currently selling for about $530. That's half your budget. You can get one a bit cheaper at Microcenter, but you can get an R7 3800X for $300 or an R9 3900X for $400.

This is what you would be looking at if you went Intel:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($528.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $877.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-26 08:44 EDT-0400

Another $200 for an indistinguishable difference in performance. The market looked a little different when I bought my i9-9900KF. If I was in the market today, I would go with one of the R7 CPUs. I would only recommend going Intel if you play esports titles where higher FPS gives you competitive advantage. The only one you listed was Fortnite and it's ridiculously easy to get high frames in that game anyway.

Pick your favorite cooling solution. Once again, I would recommend a Scythe Fuma 2. More premium options include the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 and Noctua NH-D15.

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I have a swift tech 240 water cooler so I don’t need to purchase a new cooler if I go intel. I do need to find my bag of parts to convert it to amd but if I can’t find it I will need a new cooler

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