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Upgrading router

Hey guys. I'm finally gonna upgrade my router and seeing as I have no clue about routers or networking in general I was wondering if I could get your input. Right now I've been looking at Asus RT-AX92U and ASUS RT-AX58U, they cost about the same. I use about 4 cabled units and 6 wireless units. I'm not planning on using any mesh system.

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what's a unit? devices?

depends what the devices do and what the prices are. the Asus RT-AX92U is the objectively better router, it's got more RAM + better CPU and a 2nd 5Ghz band. no idea if that'd ever benefit you with the information you gave.

I've got 8-12 WiFi devices connected to my router at any time and three wired systems on a ~$40 DLink D-636L Wireless N router from 2012, the number of clients are rarely a limiting factor nowadays unless they're all using huge amounts of bandwidth concurrently.

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what's a unit? devices?

depends what the devices do and what the prices are. the Asus RT-AX92U is the objectively better router, it's got more RAM + better CPU and a 2nd 5Ghz band. no idea if that'd ever benefit you with the information you gave.

I've got 8-12 WiFi devices connected to my router at any time and three wired systems on a ~$40 DLink D-636L Wireless N router from 2012, the number of clients are rarely a limiting factor nowadays unless they're all using huge amounts of bandwidth concurrently.
Sorry not sure why I wrote units, I meant devices indeed. I mainly want a new router because of wifi 6. So the RT-AX92U is pretty much better all-around?

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it's objectively better, yeah. if it's better for you depends on what your network traffic looks like and what all those devices are doing but look at the specs for both, should be pretty clear the 92 is better than the 58.

I did lie though, same amount of RAM on both

https://www.asus.com/Networking/RT-A...pecifications/

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AX92U
Data Rate
802.11a : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11b : 1, 2, 5.5, 11 Mbps
802.11g : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11n : up to 300 Mbps
802.11n 256QAM : up to 400 Mbps
802.11ac (5GHZ-1):up to 867 Mbps
802.11ac (5GHZ-2):up to 4333 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHZ-2):up to 4804 Mbps

Antenna
Internal antenna x 2
External antenna x 4

https://www.asus.com/Networking/RT-A...pecifications/

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AX58U
Data Rate
802.11a : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11b : 1, 2, 5.5, 11 Mbps
802.11g : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11n : up to 300 Mbps
802.11ac : up to 1734 Mbps
802.11ax (2.4GHz) : up to 574 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 2402 Mbps

Antenna
External antenna x 4

If you're not going to have any wireless devices taking advanage of >2402 Mbps (300 MB/s) then you're going to get little to no benefit but if the price difference is only a few dollars then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
it's objectively better, yeah. if it's better for you depends on what your network traffic looks like and what all those devices are doing but look at the specs for both, should be pretty clear the 92 is better than the 58.

I did lie though, same amount of RAM on both

https://www.asus.com/Networking/RT-A...pecifications/




https://www.asus.com/Networking/RT-A...pecifications/




If you're not going to have any wireless devices taking advanage of >2402 Mbps (300 MB/s) then you're going to get little to no benefit but if the price difference is only a few dollars then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Price difference is $18 so it doesn't really matter to me. I was mainly looking at which of them would give best speeds/coverage

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Speed depends on whether your devices can make use of the signals, if your wireless devices aren't compatible with WiFi 6 then it won't make a difference which one you get. If you have a large home then coverage is far more important than speed and the AX92U is, most likely, the better router as it has six antenna's in total. I can't find any reviews of the routers so it's hard to say which is better but if the price difference doesn't matter to you then you just might as well get the AX92U.

What you can ignore is the CPU and RAM, that's pure marketing as my AC66U (600MHz CPU, 128MB ROM and 256MB RAM) can easily handle over 20 devices connected to it. I've tried this before and the router works flawlessly, so coverage and signal strength are far more important than CPU, RAM and ROM, unless you're going to connect hundreds of devices to your router or you're running your VPN through the router. If so then the requirements change and I won't recommend either of these.

Spec sheet of the AX92:
http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.co.../ASUS_RT-AX92U

AX58U:
http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.co.../ASUS_RT-AX58U

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Or unless you get a cheap router which do tend to be on the limits of their CPU or RAM, especially RAM.
The more expensive models hopefully have better hardware for their processing needs and it turns into how much $$$ for what WiFi or 1 vs 2.5 vs 5 vs 10 gbps ports.
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Or unless you get a cheap router which do tend to be on the limits of their CPU or RAM, especially RAM.
The more expensive models hopefully have better hardware for their processing needs and it turns into how much $$$ for what WiFi or 1 vs 2.5 vs 5 vs 10 gbps ports.
Indeed but we're not talking about a decade old 20 USD TP-Link router that can barely handle 2 devices and only has 100Mbit ports.

Any router released in the past few years is more than capable enough of being fast enough for most uses, the question comes down to range and signal stability, all else is just marketing that brands use to claim they're better than others.

Personally I am going to replace my AC66U running Tomato with an A6-3400M (1.4-2.1GHz), 2GB RAM and 16GB MSATA, which is perfect for pfSense or OPNSense. This little router, while lacking WiFi, is so much more powerful than any router on the market and yet only costs 30 USD.

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I have the AX58 and it has been stable and fast. It’s my first Asus networking product and it’s been solid. Wifi 6 is really fast.
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