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post #11 of 106 (permalink) Old 07-28-2020, 10:53 PM
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No mention of older messages that are still not viewable?

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I look forward to opening threads where I complain that half the site does not work .

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Also looking forward to the change
Anandtech, same as IGN's interface is quite some change compared to the current layout

While IGN does show more of a forum type of feeling, i hope we can do better than that
Their navigation is laggy, while Anandtech is more of a advertisement & documentation type of site ~ similar to computerbase from my view
I just hope that features like the "Recent Discussions" sidetab will remain somewhere accessible, and maybe we'd rethink the Award System a bit again
Helping people should still be able to get rewarded somehow ~ but it might be just me who misunderstands the "staticness" in the new change

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do you have anything specific in mind when it comes to the bug reporting procedure,
Or could we expect a github similar thread opening bug report type ?
Also about the copy/duplicate of the site ~ would you update us on this thread or plan to make a new one ?

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Quote: Originally Posted by huzzug View Post
No mention of older messages that are still not viewable?
As we are moving to a completely new platform with its own unique messaging system, we have to make the assumption that the bug you elude to will not exist. Our Message database will simply be imported into the new messaging system that Xenforo has. As the bug we currently have is related to the forum software and not the database specifically then I am taking this as "Fixed" when we move. That being said I will be testing this where possible on the mirror site. In either case, if this issue for whatever reason is also an issue on Xenforo, it will get looked. I am however 99% sure it will be a non issue once we move.

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Also looking forward to the change
Anandtech, same as IGN's interface is quite some change compared to the current layout

While IGN does show more of a forum type of feeling, i hope we can do better than that
Their navigation is laggy, while Anandtech is more of a advertisement & documentation type of site ~ similar to computerbase from my view
I just hope that features like the "Recent Discussions" sidetab will remain somewhere accessible, and maybe we'd rethink the Award System a bit again
Helping people should still be able to get rewarded somehow ~ but it might be just me who misunderstands the "staticness" in the new change

ENTERPRISE,
do you have anything specific in mind when it comes to the bug reporting procedure,
Or could we expect a github similar thread opening bug report type ?
Also about the copy/duplicate of the site ~ would you update us on this thread or plan to make a new one ?
While IGN, Anandtech and Toms Hardware are powered by Xenforo, they clearly have a different look and feel. OCN will not be looking to replicate this formula, upon the launch of the new site we may see some similarities but anything that simply does not work for us as a community can be looked into with a view to altering it. As I say, nothing has to be permanent in my mind. The systems such as the Award system and Rep system will remain the same for the most part when they are re-built. The Rep system may be enhanced to include additional features, but this is not confirmed as of yet. When I say "Static", this relates to the placeholder systems that will be bought over to the new site while the actual working systems are re-developed. So what this means is that the Rep system and flames will display, but will not be a functional system whereby you can still rep people, that part of it will be disabled until the new system. The same applies for the Award system (Sig badges) in the sense we cannot give out new awards until the new system is up and running but awards would still be visible. However I will say that the Award system being migrated in a static sense is still being investigated as it is a little more complicated than the Rep system and may not be feasible within the time frame given.

The reporting of bugs will be done on the forum side in our standard Bug Reporting section. All bugs that re-producible will then get logged by myself for forwarding to VS with any other details I may find in order to hopefully expedite the process.

As for the mirror site of OCN. It will only be myself and The_Manual who will have access to this and will not be publicly available, it is doubtful I will share any screenshots. The reasoning for this is to manage expectations and keep the noise low. Any screenshots I show will be a skeleton version of the site, OCN visuals will be incomplete and the site would not be recognizable at that stage. All in all this would not help anyone as we would not be ready for feedback and would likely unnecessarily send some people into panic mode.


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Quote: Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE View Post
When I say "Static", this relates to the placeholder systems that will be bought over to the new site while the actual working systems are re-developed. So what this means is that the Rep system and flames will display, but will not be a functional system whereby you can still rep people, that part of it will be disabled until the new system. The same applies for the Award system (Sig badges) in the sense we cannot give out new awards until the new system is up and running but awards would still be visible. However I will say that the Award system being migrated in a static sense is still being investigated as it is a little more complicated than the Rep system and may not be feasible within the time frame given.
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Any screenshots I show will be a skeleton version of the site, OCN visuals will be incomplete and the site would not be recognizable at that stage. All in all this would not help anyone as we would not be ready for feedback and would likely unnecessarily send some people into panic mode.
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Exciting stuff, I'm looking forward to the change. Perhaps we should get this thread as one of the dismiss-able popup banners at the top of the forum? Seems like something worth notifying everyone about.

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Exciting stuff, I'm looking forward to the change. Perhaps we should get this thread as one of the dismiss-able popup banners at the top of the forum? Seems like something worth notifying everyone about.
It is on the front page exposure


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Quote: Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE View Post
It is on the front page exposure
Ah yeah I suppose that works too. I think I'm one of the very few that doesn't go on the actual front page very often; I either go straight to my subbed threads or just to the general forum.

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I look forward to opening threads where I complain that half the site does not work .
@ENTERPRISE Suggestions:

add a prominent site migration status popup, link, or whatever to the header so that's it's always accessible rather than have users seek out some sort of bugs thread, that:

  • makes the list of things yet to be accomplished more prominent to viewers of the Xenforo version of the site once it's live;
  • ensure said list always begins above the fold.

If a linked page is established to handle the above suggestions, move the hows, whys, etc. of the migration-related bugs thread below that list. Make sure the list appears first, followed by any FAQ-like and/or other related content.

Doing so could help cut down on the number of submissions to the bug list, and is geared toward reducing overhead.

Additionally, standardize a set of rules that would help minimize complaints_gripes_spam_whateverYouWantToCallThem which don't actually assist in identifying/resolving a bug; such could help lower the amount of overhead E and others are subjected to having to deal with. Astute users should understand and accept the reasoning here (disclaimer: standard disclaimer about non-astute users applies).

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@ENTERPRISE Suggestions:

add a prominent site migration status popup, link, or whatever to the header so that's it's always accessible rather than have users seek out some sort of bugs thread, that:

  • makes the list of things yet to be accomplished more prominent to viewers of the Xenforo version of the site once it's live;
  • ensure said list always begins above the fold.

If a linked page is established to handle the above suggestions, move the hows, whys, etc. of the migration-related bugs thread below that list. Make sure the list appears first, followed by any FAQ-like and/or other related content.

Doing so could help cut down on the number of submissions to the bug list, and is geared toward reducing overhead.

Additionally, standardize a set of rules that would help minimize complaints_gripes_spam_whateverYouWantToCallThem which don't actually assist in identifying/resolving a bug; such could help lower the amount of overhead E and others are subjected to having to deal with. Astute users should understand and accept the reasoning here (disclaimer: standard disclaimer about non-astute users applies).

E, I made you an offer to help a while back; it still stands if you're interested. If you're not, that's okay too
Hey bud,

Thanks for the suggestions ! More than happy for you to help out so far as the bug testing (Access to the testing platform however is really strict). As for your suggestions, they are very good. For the moment the reason the bug reporting is less organised is due to the fact it will become an organised thought out process a little closer to the migration. I will be creating said document ready for a copy and paste later, again a little closer to the migration. Rest assured it will be available from day 1 of the migration so people can hit the ground running with it.

I will likely make a start on it today to flesh things out

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