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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-25-2012, 09:01 PM - Thread Starter
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Problem started after adding another SSD to my system yesterday. No problems during regular bootup, active usage, even gaming. But when I try to wake the rig up after going to sleep. I get this message:

Anti-surge protection was triggered, system was shut down to protect from unstable power supply.

I can then go into bios, check the voltage parameters (which appears fine). then just exit without saving. It'd resume back into windows as if nothing happened.

First thing I did was to update to the latest bios 1406 from asus. The issue persisted.

I think the psu should have enough juice for my system. My spec is as follows:

PSU - Seasonic x-650 modular 80plus gold

i5 3570k
asus p8z77 V mb
8g samsung ram
asus 670 directcu II Top
cdrom
hitachi 2g hd 7200
m4 128gb
m4 256gb <
this is the new component I added yesterday and the problem started.

One thing I did when adding the new ssd is that instead of adding a new separate modular cable to power the ssd, I changed out the previous 2 prong cable powering the hitachi drive and 128gb M4 drive to a 3 prong cable which is now powering those 2 plus the new 256gb M4.

I'm not sure if that may be too much juice from a single modular cable. I suppose that's the next thing I'll try if problem persist.

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-25-2012, 09:26 PM
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Are you plugging your power supply into a surge protector?
120v or 240v input on your psu?
Your power supply should have a list on the side of it or the box it came in will tell you how many amps that rail has- i wouldnt think that would be too much for that rail but the power supply will tell

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Yes, it is plugged into a surge protector.

I thought this was a top of the line PSU, I didn't bother to include the rail amps. I thought 650W should be enough for what I run.

Just wasn't sure if there is an issue with running 3 drives (though 2 ssd which should be minimal power draw) on a single power cable.

I've listed the amp per rail:

+3.3v 25A
+5v 25A
combined 125W

+12v 54A 648W
-12v 1A 12W

+5Vsb 3A 15W
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post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-26-2012, 04:33 AM
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I get that message too sometimes. It only happens when I'm folding on both CPU and GPU, then when the CPU work unit is finished suddenly the board decides to shutdown with the "anti-surge protection" message. I solved my issue by not folding on the GPU any more. I guess in your situation it's happening on wake-up because one of your components is demanding more juice than the motherboard thinks is safe.

I'm curious to know how Asus boards measure this surge? What is the exact symptom necessary to make the board think there's been a dangerous surge? Since it's a motherboard message, must it be some measurement on either the ATX or EPS connections? Or could it also be some kind of "overflow" or "backwash" reaching the motherboard via the GPU from the PCIe power?

Btw, I'm pretty sure it's not your 3 drives. Especially the SSDs hardly need any juice at all.


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It's a quirk of the motherboard, it kicks in far more easily than it should.

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I thought it was only my P8H61, but I guess they used the same logic component on the p8z77 series. Any idea if you can disable it? I couldn't see anything in the bios about it.


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I thought it was only my P8H61, but I guess they used the same logic component on the p8z77 series. Any idea if you can disable it? I couldn't see anything in the bios about it.

Actually I think you may be able to disable the anti surge support. I was browsing through my Z77-V Pro's BIOS and I saw an option for it to enable or disable the anti-surge support. I believe it's under the "monitor" tab, all the way at the bottom.

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I have had several issues with this anti surge error. Are you guys sure that your motherboard is not touching your case?

I just got a new motherboard (from an RMA) an am afraid to put on my backplate for my hyper 212 because i think it is causing it to short out.

"Case brass standoffs (or integral) must have body length of 5/16" MINIMUM. You must keep the mobo as far away from chasis as possible."

I am going to find some longer brass stand offs then put my backplate back on. Right now it works find but i don't have a backplate on. mad.gif

I heard a lot of people use the rubber ones. What do you guys use?
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Make sure the motherboard is placed properly over the mobo tray, with the screws well inplaced. I know you only installed the SSD, but anything could have been moved out of place, maybe just a little bit, but enough to make a bridge between metal and motherboard back pins or a cable or somthing thus creating a shortcut. I had this problem with my Asus motherboard and it was because a cable was peeled and made contact with the surface of the case. I added a bit of tape and it was good to go.

Other option could be that the cable feeding power to the SSD is damaged and that's why you get that warning.

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I have had several issues with this anti surge error. Are you guys sure that your motherboard is not touching your case?

Surge protection is not caused by a short-circuit, it is triggered when the voltage delivered by the PSU fluctuates unexpectedly. For example when starting the PC (posting or from hibernation) several components starting simultaneously can cause voltage droop. Or if a switching PSU has been loaded for a long time (prime/furmark/folding) and then goes idle can cause overvoltage. This is different from a short circuit as in that situation the board would likely not post at all.


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