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Note that i have not reviewed this unit nor do i claim i have
Everything came from http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NZXT/HALE82-700-V2/






This PSU is most likely made by Sirtec and is nothing special in terms of design. The white PCB may look nice but the used components aren't that appealing as the caps that filter the rails in the secondary side are provided by Suscon. Passive components are also used for the rectification of the +12V rail, which leads to higher energy dissipation than on mosfet solutions. The outdated group regulation scheme used in the secondary side will also affect performance with highly unbalanced loads on the rails.

We wonder why NZXT decided to combine a modern external appearance and a fully modular cabling design with such an outdated design. We would highly prefer it if they added several native cables to then offer an independent regulation scheme instead of the lousy group regulation scheme. NZXT obviously invested into appearances instead of boosting performance under certain conditions.





In the APFC, two Infineon IPW60R125CP fets and a CREE C3D08060A boost diode shape the current's waveform to match the voltage one. The hold-up cap is provided by Teapo (400 V, 390 μF, LH series). It is rated at only up to 85°C, and its capacity is rather small for the needs of this PSU, which our hold-up tests will clearly show.





Things don't look so good on the secondary side since we only found two toroidal chokes, a clear indication that a group regulated scheme is used for the generation of the rails. NZXT should know better and avoid such an outdated technique in a modern PSU because it dooms crossload performance and doesn't allow the unit to meet the requirements Intel set for Haswell compatibility. NZXT even used less efficient SBRs (Schottky Barrier Diodes) instead of mosfets to further reduce cost.

The +12V rail is rectified by four PFR40L60CT while the minor rails are handled by three Mospec S30D45C SBRs. To make things even worse, all filtering caps in the secondary are provided by Suscon, a company that isn't among our favorites when it comes to caps.





We found a pair of electrolytic caps at the front of the modular PCB. These are for extra ripple filtering, and the soldering job on the rear side is a mess.






Soldering quality on the main PCB is of acceptable quality, but we have seen much better soldering jobs in even more affordable units.



The fan is provided by Hong Sheng, and its model number is A1425H12S (9 - 13.8 V, 0.39 A, 1800 RPM, 97.2 CFM, 36.2 dBA). It has sleeve bearings and is quite strong, which then leads to high output noise.

Note that all ripple and voltage results are from the unit(s) at full load

Voltage Regulation below






Ripple below



End result this PSU is cheap for a reason as its not very good.

All info and pictures came from techpowerup and the testing has been done by them so all credit goes to them not me.

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This is the HALE 82 V2

He has a HALE 90 V2 which is an FSP made unit

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This is the HALE 82 V2

He has a HALE 90 V2 which is an FSP made unit

Oh yeah sorry misread. The Hale 82 certainly sucks, there is a reason for the cheap price biggrin.gif
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Oh yeah sorry misread. The Hale 82 certainly sucks, there is a reason for the cheap price biggrin.gif

There are 3 HALE 82 model

First one is the M which is a Seasonic M12II

The HALE 82-N which is a FSP model with ripple that goes berserk and out of ATX specifications when it gets too hot

And the cheap crappy HALE 82 V2

These are the avoid at all costs NZXT units

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116023
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116024

These are the good ones

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116009
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116010
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116022

In fact i am using this one right now for my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116011

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To your point Shilka, I can confirm that the Hale82-N was a piece of crap at high temperatures. My case doesn't have the best ventilation and I fold 24/7 with a pair of GTX 480's under the Kuhler 620 mod.

I could never figure out why, but when I folded just one 480 or the other 480, I was able to complete WU's at 875 core with no problems (1138mv). But when I cranked both of them up, the best they would do was 775core at the same 1138mv voltage.

I was perplexed. Until I read a review of the Hale82-N. And I saw what putting one in a case with a pair of 480's does. My overclocked failed and I had lots of system instability when I really pushed the Hale. Ultimately, I replaced it with an Antec HCG-900 and couldn't be happier.

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The question is why you would buy a NZXT Hale 82 PSU unless it was cheap due to sale or you wanted a white PSU

The Seasonic M12II and G series units are cheaper than the NZXT ones

If you wanted a white PSU, the PC Power & Cooling MKIII 750W+ units are all Superflower units like the Rosewill Capstone

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The question is why you would buy a NZXT Hale 82 PSU unless it was cheap due to sale or you wanted a white PSU

The Seasonic M12II and G series units are cheaper than the NZXT ones

If you wanted a white PSU, the PC Power & Cooling MKIII 750W+ units are all Superflower units like the Rosewill Capstone

Because the Hale82 is on our recommended PSU list last I checked which is a real shame. hmmsmiley02.gif

I'd love to have had an M12II instead of my previous Hale82.... I got a 900w Delta so I can't really complain


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The list needs updating then wink.gif

People visiting OCN shouldn't need to read 50 30 pages of Shilka ranting to find a good PSU tongue.gif

(No offense Shilka , you know I love your rants smile.gif)

P.S. Shilka is missing a "why you should not buy a Corsair CS PSU"

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