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post #11 of 230 (permalink) Old 09-24-2014, 11:50 PM
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so you would have him buy a smaller psu..with less headroom for expansion and if he does expand to sli/Xfire maybe...hell have to upgrade the psu again?
doesnt make sense shilka...
were both tryin to help him..so wouldnt it be better getting a proper 700-850w psu from the start?
yes its wasted power..but having more to play with also makes the psu not over work itself by being to close to the max!

It makes perfect sense if you know how PSUs work on a component level(optional) and understand what kind of power draw the parts being used have. thumb.gif
Lets assume the worst:
1. 24/7 100% system load
2. 300W GPU
3. 150W CPU
4. 20W from RAM
For a grand total of 470W.
Asuming a 550w unit, that leaves a total of 80W of power for EVERYTHING else in the system.
Thats 15+ mechanical HDDs and Fans etc.

Taking into account how the whole 80+ Cert system(and PSUs in general) works you can also assume that buying a massive overkill PSU is less efficient than running a PSU at just under its rating, meaning you are spending more money on your PSU ourtight AND more money over its lifespan on your electricity bill. Granted that is probably a fairly small amout, but its still there.
Same goes for "stressing" a PSU. A good PSU can and will run near or at its rated wattage for its entire life with no issues as they are rated for constant voltage not peak voltage, so there is no reason not to figure out what kind of power your parts will need, add 50 watts or so and call it good. biggrin.gif

Buying a bigger PSU "just in case" you want to go multi-card in the future is a waste of money.
I can count on one hand how many times ive seen people spend the extra for a bigger PSU and actually buy a second card later over the past several years.

Buy what you need, not what you MIGHT need.

That being said, OP, Look at the list shilka linked for something ~500W and see whats available in your area.
Let us know what you can get and we will see what will do the best for the least money. thumb.gif

As for the rest of the build, you selected good parts.
Most of them are kind of a "close your eyes and pick one" situation in my opinion, but i'm sure we have members who can shed more light on the specifics than I can these days. redface.gif
That is, if you want help with them.

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post #12 of 230 (permalink) Old 09-25-2014, 12:02 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi all,
My parts will be sourced from centrecom.com.au or pccasegear.com. Those are the two local sources for parts where I'm from. With that being said, I'm more looking for parts from centrecom. Also, red build is my first preference. I also intend to overclock the computer at one point in time or another.
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From Centrecom I see the Antec HCG 520 which if im not mistaken is a solid, if not fantastic, unit.
Thats all that catches my eye from them unfortunatley

pccasegear has a better selection in your wattage range

The G-550 is usually a safe bet as the G-series is pretty much solid across the board, and the M12II 520 is old but still a serviceable platform
I also THINK the FSP Aurum S 550 is a good buy, especially with that price difference.

Once again, im a little out of date on this stuff, so I may be off on specific units these days redface.gif

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you are all correct..
but still..better to be safe than sorry..
v700
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hx650..
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Was the 520W PSU chosen with consideration of an overclock? If I were to overclock, would 600W-700W be a good choice? If so, please help me choose a PSU.
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The Corsair RM is not worth buying at all.

I beg to differ.....

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=369

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I beg to differ.....

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=369

Its way overpriced and its overrated and overhyped to the extreme by stupid fanboys, you can get tons of other units for the money or less that are way better then the Corsair RM therefore its not worth buying.
https://www.overclock.net/t/1455892/why-you-might-not-want-to-buy-a-corsair-rm-psu

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fanboys or not..stupid or not..id rather buy a corsair or CM psu for rest of my soul sake that i know im getting super support services..
both CM % corsair have great support when it comes to rma support..very often no ?'s asked..just straight up helpfull..
true theres many great value budget psu'
no 1 is saying thrre arnt..

but were here to give/help this builder a solid choice..good guidelines..which we all are doin? agreed?

buying a great 550w psu to have it pull 350-450w and leaving little headroom for OCin fun isnt a good choice..and the AuS..whether is very humid and hot in most parts..
so buying a better qaulity unit at 650-850w is a better choice..
at minimum a 650w..
my hx650 ran solid for 3years..without a glitch till i started adding more stuff to my pc..ocing..it just couldnt handle the xtra load...corsair replaced my unit with a new hx750w no frills or nonsense...all i had to do is send back the faulty unit...so hows that for support
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Its way overpriced and its overrated and overhyped to the extreme by stupid fanboys, you can get tons of other units for the money or less that are way better then the Corsair RM therefore its not worth buying.
https://www.overclock.net/t/1455892/why-you-might-not-want-to-buy-a-corsair-rm-psu


You didn't say it's "overpriced" and there are better buys out there. What you did say was "It's not worth buying at all" and "It's not worthing buying because it's rubbish" both absolute statements and both untrue. It's worth of buying depends on it's price vs the competition which can change over time. It may not be a good "value for the dollar" choice right now but that doesn't mean it won't be tomorrow. And you say rubbish, Oklahoma Wolf (who provides in depth reasoning) says otherwise. Yours is a statement of opinion, his is a statement of opinion backed up with test data and experience.

Edit - And calling ANY product "rubbish" without any solid reason or data to back it up, I think is wholly unfair and puts it in a category with companies like Deer in people's minds.

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you said to me something about silverstone..
what size & model was it precisely?
look @
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=447&area=en
these are pretty decent units .
if this is what you were referring to id say go for a 750w and be done with it...

dont make the mistake i made by getting a too small unit..regardless if it has a strong 12V rail or not..
better having a higher W psu with a strong
12V rail and has lotsa headroom than
goin for 550w with little headroom..
anything above [email protected] on the 12v rail with good reviews...
like the xfx editions..fractal..nzxt..corsair..cm..
PC power cooling mk silencer series..

do some good research..johnny guru..
linus tech tips..all of the possible places..google till you mind hurts..
if you have any doubts..pm me anytime..
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