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post #21 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-28-2018, 12:41 PM
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Fine? According to whom? You? Some other anonymous poster with, i'm sure, about 12 degrees in electronics-related subjects?
If all you've to add is nothing, why post.

Yes, the card's a power-thirsty monster, unfortunately. Even so though, this doesn't happen to all PSUs out there, now does it; in fact..
And what you've deduced from this is that it's the card's 'fault'? Well done, lol.
Oh, and also, it's cards yeah? Plural. In said same one, specific PSU line; from said same one, specific company

Anyway, kudos to Seasonic for being on top of this from the getgo.
I always thought Seasonic had a rep. for high quality PSU's? Was I wrong?
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Every brand has at least one or more products that has one or more minor problems Seasonic just admits it where everyone else sweeps it under the rug and ignore it
A few combinations has a few problems that is all and that does not mean Seasonic quality is bad and its more of a problem with the GPU´s

I bet there are cases where combinations with Corsair, EVGA, Be Quiet or one of the other brands and some GPU´s have problems where as i said before its so small that no cares or it was swept under the rug and ignored

A storm in a glass of water sounds fitting to cases like that
If they where bad there would be far more cases and reports

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I have a pair of the 850W Focus Gold Plus units i used in 2 customer builds. one powering a [email protected] and a 1070ti and the other running a 2700x with SLI 980ti cards for a customer and haven't once had an issue. Going to be ordering another one for my uncles upgrade as well. I think they're great units and love the warranty. Sounds to me like Asus is the one with the issue of the slightest ripple causes problems and i'm not surprised with that company.
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My 850W Focus Plus came in today, the serial suggests it is June 2018 batch (the advisory is for before January 2018). I have a 650W with serial from September 2017 as well.


Interestingly it now includes a PSU tester plug that I don't think was in the package at original launch.



There really isn't anything that compares in the ATX size as far as 140-150mm length. Everything else on the market has design decisions that are flawed such as a fan eco mode that is nonexistent or inside the case ; 180mm long PSUs that merely match this one ; shorter warranties on 550/650W units (EVGA) ; CPU connectors that don't seem to split into 4+4 (RMx).

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I always thought Seasonic had a rep. for high quality PSU's? Was I wrong?
You know, every brand may have issues in PSU market but also in others markets like car, phones etc.. The most important is to face it. I guess we tried and did. Most important for us is our customer to be happy with their product. And if any issue, to contact us (www.seasonic.com/contact) to make things right.



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How much load ripple insensitivity is a PSU supposed to have and how low is this supposed to be from components? At least the protections on Seasonic PSU work and kick in on GPUs that are going a bit too crazy with their load ripple, spiking peak loads too high or even too long.
Are GPUs supposed to have better filtering of their crazy load ripple? Or PSUs have better filtering against crazy ripple loads? Or ignore load spikes more and hope it's fine?

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I always thought Seasonic had a rep. for high quality PSU's? Was I wrong?
This and your previous statement are two very different things
But leaving that aside (it's up to you to weigh the two and reach some conclusions about your way of thinking)?

Depends on how strict you are; personally speaking, yes, it's a brand i find respectable, but no, it's not a brand i tend to favour; but to explain:

- Hype plays a big part in this, think Asus (also going down the toilet steadily, but hype keeps it as a top seller, we've many "power" users in this very forum swearing by it). Hype dies last, so we need alsways remain informed rather than rely on it.
- You check proper reviews, not your average Youtube teenager playing with his free toys, you will often find that barring their most expensive models, there are PSUs from the competition that perform slightly better while being at the same or often lower price.
- Their implementing this "newer" (read: not really, but new for us 'consumers') power switch type on the back of the unit -i forget its name- is only problematic for me; that damned switch is supposed to be there for me to be capable of killing power at an instance's notice.. i cannot do that in Seasonic PSUs; while yes, their implementation is "safer", it also disallows this level of control that is important for many other things unrelated to the PSU itself: say you have an error, a strong hang, something that requires you to hard turn off the PC, right? With the Seasonic, you need plug the PSU cable out like a cannibal. Not a fan. Say you're done setting your custom loop, bleeding, etc., turn on for first time, insta-warning or issue; again plus cables like a cannibal; see what i mean? That alone means Seasonic=NO for me. We've been using the "old school" PSU power switch all these decades for a very good reason. One that's still relevant.
- A few years back they introduced a number of units with very thin wire gauge, despite their being on their high end side of units; am talking Platinum 1200 units here, lol.. unacceptable; now admittedly, this is the exception not the rule, but it also entails my now needing to look for this each and every time, because if they did it once, they may again, yes? Trust.

Now before you rush into the obvious conclusion, no; they've made a looot of very good models as well. But.. by now (and this is important, the market evolves), i can show you equally good or often better units costing the same amount of money if not less, with the same kind of warranty (10yrs), but with occasionally better performance and with an always actually usable back switch (see above). So why would i buy a Seasonic? Again, personally speaking.
Am happy they're here, competition keeps prices healthy, am respectful of what they make; but i've no reason to choose them.
(don't ask what i tend to choose, as we're already off topic here and naming other brands can be construed as bating/inciting, which is not my intent)

Don't dismiss them, but never, ever, rely on reputation=hype alone. The very people that continue to forward said hype are usually worse than your average user ^^
The latter might wish to inform themselves at some point.. the former, they already think they know

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It's been fixed by Seasonic. So if you plan on buying one, you should make sure you get from the latest batch.
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I always thought Seasonic had a rep. for high quality PSU's? Was I wrong?
I've always had a good experience with their power supplies (made by Seasonic, not Seasonic branded). This time around though I purchased a Seasonic branded power supply (Focus gold+) and it was a complete letdown.

1) Loud buzzing randomly. It's either quiet the whole day or it's buzzing the whole day. Completely random.
2) Gigantic in-cable capacitors that effectively makes cable management damn near impossible. I purchase fully modular power supplies for cable management, but it's completely pointless if every cable has enormous in-cable caps. It really makes no sense to me.
3) The "10 year warranty" is a straight up lie.

Let's just say I used to be a fan, but not so much anymore.

Oh and ..

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