Originally Posted by pulverizor
when users testify that their PSU feels piping hot to the touch that's enough of a hint
well no they're banking on a maximum number of RMA's my point is if it overheats *but* not enough to trigger OTP then it's even worse because if OTP's triggered at least it spares the PSU. capice?
The beauty of RMx and Project 7 and Leadex Platinum and i think Prime Ultra Titanium is the low max fan speed that can't bug or trip out and a better fan speed curve than most other PSUs.
and that's the problem with modern cases where the PSU is at the bottom (in the past they used to be at top of case so no risk of obstruction of air intake)
I dont care about the fans or whatever the excuse is the fact is if it overheats then you should attend to such flaws & fix it
Piping hot to the touch, did i read this right, oh lawd oh my sides, that's absolutely irrelevant people gonna feel hot touching stuff below 40 degrees, they don't know biology and when their skin feels hot, they don't even know if they have thin skin and feel hot faster than an average person, they don't even know how the PSU is designed, or how big or what kind of heatsinks it has or how efficiency fits into this.
My old Seasonic SS-760 with a broken eco that had fan that never span up, worked 7 years with no fan at 250-450W peak usage and i gave it to a friend and it's still working 2.5 years later and all it has is moderate coil whine. Hell do you know what i did with a Seasonic evo that has a fan too loud i fricking ripped it out, put a 1200RPM silent fan in and electrically isolated and routed the cable to an extender and plugged it in the motherboard and ran at 900 RPM for years, ...
This user test sounds a lot like my friend who complains of CPU overheating and takes top panel off because it's hot to the touch and there's hot air coming out of exhaust and then i check his CPU and GPU temperatures and they are absolutely normal even in synthetic stress test let alone gaming scenario, and the air is hotter on top because of the airflow setup and he still doesn't believe me or understand 5 years later no matter how many times i explain to him, and swears his previous PC was cold there, and that PC had horrible airflow and fan placement and vortexes and hot air pockets and air coming out of the back into the wall where he didn't notice it and was actually overheating lol. He also made me downclock the 2500K on that PC and then switched to a new PC because he didn't have enough FPS in same games anymore, ...
This is quite a subjective and no proof response, i was at least expecting a link to actual multiple comments of people with this problem that tested or took apart, or at least their convos with RMA, or even your bad experience with an RMx, this is just hearsay and you're even having trouble with PSUs not being on top anymore and not that the case makers should just make slightly longer/higher case feet ?
P.S. Ok, 40 degrees that hot to the touch might be a bit of a stretch, we might not be on the same page what this means about how hot it actually is but i'm still not convinced that it is an accurate way to determine the temperature inside the PSU itself.
Originally Posted by pulverizor
who cares whether it's the fan or whatever reason/excuse the fact is if PSU overheats then you should attend to such flaws & fix the flaws in your product
Just to clarify cause i get the feeling that we're actually on the same page here i completely agree with you that if there's a bad design decision or a sneaky decision to make a apple style planned obsolescence ploy that this is actually horrible, and those kind of flaws should be fixed.
But I still think that putting freaking 1800-2200RPM fans in power supplies is ludicrous, that 1000-1250RPM fans are more than enough, and that a properly balanced fan curve is a must, and that >1400RPM fans and a PSU designed around them are a bad design choice, and the PSU should be designed to work within its 7-12 years warranty @45-50 degrees C constant temperature around lower max rpm fans.