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post #21 of 91 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 04:09 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by pulverizor View Post
many of us want a case they feel safe with (something stable that won't blow over & topple at the slightest breeze damaging $ components inside)
mine's over 20lbs it's a good weight for an ATX though tbh could use more



criteria for notebooks & smartphones of course are different :|

That's exactly the point. If you have the heaviest component at the top, it becomes top-heavy, thus easily turned over.

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Why would a steel case weigh 100lbs? An empty steel case is roughly 5lbs. Aluminum weighs around 20-30% less for the same volume.
Placing the PSU at the top makes the top the heaviest area, all you gain for doing this is having the PSU closer to the 24 pin but then what do you do with all the extra cable? You'd also have to route it above or below your cooler and there's no way to really hide it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
Why would a steel case weigh 100lbs? An empty steel case is roughly 5lbs. Aluminum weighs around 20-30% less for the same volume.
Placing the PSU at the top makes the top the heaviest area, all you gain for doing this is having the PSU closer to the 24 pin but then what do you do with all the extra cable? You'd also have to route it above or below your cooler and there's no way to really hide it.
cept the 24pin (and the cpu 8pin) are the only bulky cables

the others (pci-e & sata) are much lighter & usually flat & easy to manage & they're long enough that they can reach hard drives & GPU's even from the top

so again my idea has the advantage for the cabling

weight? my point is the weight of the PSU aint much next to the weight of the case even an alu case. you honestly think center of gravity shifts that much when moving the PSU between top & bottom?
not to mention when moving PSU to top, the mobo, CPU (and its cooler) & graphics card are all shifted down which mitigates this so in the end the different in Gspot height would be negligible

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Innovate by going backwards? Cases were already like that, no one was bothered when this changed. It's not your idea.
Yes the 24 pin is the biggest. PSU on top puts it right in the way.
If they made a handful of cases the way they used to almost no one would buy them. The people spoke when bottom mount became the standard.
Next you'll invent the horse drawn buggy.

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actually after a quick search it turns out it's for all those reasons I mentioned that top-PSU cases are being invented making a comeback nowadays :

https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Catego.../CC-9011080-WW

(though they call it "inverted design" like it's a new thing)

maybe people are finally getting the old message: if it ain't broke don't fix it
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Quote: Originally Posted by pulverizor View Post
actually after a quick search it turns out it's for all those reasons I mentioned that top-PSU cases are being invented making a comeback nowadays :

https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Catego.../CC-9011080-WW

(though they call it "inverted design" like it's a new thing)

maybe people are finally getting the old message: if it ain't broke don't fix it

It's called inverted because all the internals are upside down, not because the PSU is on the top...

Though I guess the point remains, it's the same as what Intel tried to push with the BTX form factor way back when except it's with a standard ATX board.

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Going backwards is not innovation there is a reason why they stopped doing it and if it bothers you that much buy an old case from Ebay

You almost sound like an old fart but you cant be that old if you cant remember what cases where like 10-15 years ago
How would you like a case with zero room for cable management and no cable grommets of any kind

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Why would a steel case weigh 100lbs? An empty steel case is roughly 5lbs. Aluminum weighs around 20-30% less for the same volume.
Placing the PSU at the top makes the top the heaviest area, all you gain for doing this is having the PSU closer to the 24 pin but then what do you do with all the extra cable? You'd also have to route it above or below your cooler and there's no way to really hide it.
People make me so sad sometimes.


Thermal-ripoff Core W200 is just under 70 pounds, add the pedestal and it’s up to 100.



Plus add water and it’s even more weight.

I’ll take my Caselabs Aluminium Case any day over that crap.

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Oh I'm sorry I thought we were talking about normal cases, I'd excluded the "compensating for something" cases with support for two water cooled computers. Making a 100lb steel case out of aluminum would still make a 70lb case at best and if you're filling it with water does the weight of the case even matter anymore?

A standard steel case is about 20lbs tops, aluminum puts that at around 14lbs. Water cooling also makes that pretty much irrelevant.

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Oh I'm sorry I thought we were talking about normal cases, I'd excluded the "compensating for something" cases with support for two water cooled computers. Making a 100lb steel case out of aluminum would still make a 70lb case at best and if you're filling it with water does the weight of the case even matter anymore?

A standard steel case is about 20lbs tops, aluminum puts that at around 14lbs. Water cooling also makes that pretty much irrelevant.



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