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If the FBI CIA NSA or any other alphabet agency really want to look at your PC it does not matter the least what hardware or software you have they can and they will break into it if they really want

Unless you are doing something illegal they have little reason to spy on you unless you think its corporations and in that case cut yourself off and live somewhere remote without internet thats the only way to be 100% secure

Sory but this is too tinfoil hat for me
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agreed,

though I would change one bit.

"they have no reason to directly observe the data they're already collecting on you. The tools you use only limit the intrusion, not completely terminate it"

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Actually and thats not even being paranoid the bigest spy and surveillance outfit is Facebook so if you are genuinely concerned about spying and surveillance delete your Facebook profile and never go back

Trust me you will feel better too i got fed up with them earlier in the year because of all the censorship they have going on and i deleted my profile
The US government and the alphabet agencies are nothing compared

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yep, my FB account has been gone for as long as my buddies have been back from the sand box.

but that's because I'm abundantly aware of the signs of addiction, and couldn't stand myself falling towards a digital one. what a joke.

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but not this thing you call "pucker"

As in tighten up ye ole buttocks and pray You know Pucker... Pucker up...


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I'm always on the lookout for new information.

And yet here we are trying, and there you are rejecting



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Though to tell you the truth, networking and advanced software is my weakness.

There's a cure for that, it's called reading, learning and trying.



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I'm just the hardware guy who builds computers, installs the OS and plays around with it, and use basic programs and play games.

Correction, antiquated hardware guy. You're playing around with stuff that if it is still supported it won't be much longer, the updates you install are the last ones the developers do. As for games, 5+-year-old games do not compare to modern ones and IF a modern game runs on 5+-year-old hardware they do so poorly.



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I go with what's familiar to me, as I remember the good old days.


I remember the good ole days too, but you won't find me booting up the Commodore 64 and running games in DOS to play Temple of Apshai.



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I don't know what VPN's are trustworthy. Some will trick you.

Wow really? People trick other people? Who'd have thunk it Welcome to life, I'm smilinjohn (and if you think I was born with that name...) glad to meet you...


Read, learn, try. You said you were always looking for new information, read, learn, try


Read reviews and learn what a VPN is, does and why it's a good idea to use one. It's not just for illegal downloads, though a lot of that does go on with a VPN, I use a VPN to keep my ISP from selling my browsing history to marketing firms


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If the FBI CIA NSA or any other alphabet agency really want to look at your PC it does not matter the least what hardware or software you have they can and they will break into it if they really want

Exactly, and older hardware is easier to crack than newer hardware is.


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Unless you are doing something illegal they have little reason to spy on you unless you think its corporations and in that case cut yourself off and live somewhere remote without internet thats the only way to be 100% secure

That's the thing that gets me when people question me about having an Amazon Alexa device. No, I don't worry about it, I don't do or talk about doing illegal stuff, it gets its internet connection from a segmented wireless network that doesn't have access to my wired network. Is it 100%? No probably not, but it is far from unsecured.


I'm not so important that the goberment is going to focus their attention on me, I'm a middle-aged, unemployed, fulltime student who likes to fish and build high-end PCs. A danger to the country hardly, the only danger I pose is to the bass population at my local lakes.



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Sory but this is too tinfoil hat for me

Agreed, though I do know a few guys like the OP in Montana annnnd that's why I came back to Kentucky


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Actually and thats not even being paranoid the bigest spy and surveillance outfit is Facebook

I think it's a tie between FB and Google


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The US government and the alphabet agencies are nothing compared

Because while they actively monitor the internet they aren't trying to make money off of your data, they are looking for threats to the country and their authority FB, on the other hand, is trying to profit off of your kitten picks, knowing you dog is puking on your new carpet, and what you had for a midnight snack

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truly impressive number of "-es" in that post.

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FB, google, aws. i've heard this "data is now worth more than oil" often, recently.. i'm pretty sure it always was, it's just in a new form & traceable via NYSE.

also, I take offense! My x79 system is still a slugger. @ 1080p120 w. a 1070. The person that makes use of it now absolutely loves the little power house, as they know nothing better.

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truly impressive number of "-es" in that post.

I know right On a forum geared towards technology and the people who embrace it talking about new hardware not being secure tends to imprint that emoji on my brain.



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FB, google, aws. i've heard this "data is now worth more than oil" often, recently.. i'm pretty sure it always was, it's just in a new form & traceable via NYSE.

We had a discussion about this last semester in my CIS-311 Management Information Systems class on the collection, farming, and marketability of big data. It has been for a while and over the last few years, they have gotten better at making better more productive sense of the volume they collect. If you need a figure of what it's net worth is, just look at the net worth of FB and Google, that tells you all you need to know.


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also, I take offense! My x79 system is still a slugger. @ 1080p120 w. a 1070. The person that makes use of it now absolutely loves the little power house, as they know nothing better.

From the wording, one would assume this person you refer to typically buys their PCs in a box if they know nothing better?


I'm not trying to be offending, just realistic. 5-+-year old hardware may still be usable, but does it really stack up with your current daily rig?


Even if I build a PC today with the intent it'll last 10 years, in 2029 I don't expect it will run the latest programs as well as it runs the latest programs today in 2019.


I've been upgrading gaming PCs for the kids of a friend of mine slowly (when her budget allows) over the last couple of months that are 5-year-old hardware. The first complaint from those kids is that their games run like crap. Do I keep the old componets, sure. Do I use those components in a build that is going to be a daily workhorse, nope. Not when I have the latest hardware at my fingertips.

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I notice as newer and newer computers come out they really do last longer than earlier ones, especially comparing to the 90's. This is my evidence that proves the longevity claims: I use a 14 year old Dell Latitude D600 laptop at home as a backup sometimes and if you use the right lightweight OS, it runs halfway decent and gets the job done. It's still not obsolete! :-) I'm not much of a modern gamer and I tend to stick to causal online tasks, like email or web browsing, and sometimes Youtube. So I have no trouble seeing my new PC build lasting me 10-15 years at least, especially seeing it can be upgraded to a whopping massive ton of ram, 256GB!! And if necessary and if it's still feasible, I'll hunt down another socket g34 board that can support 512GB or 1TB of ram! (Yes they do exist) Buying server grade hardware can buy you time. There were clunky ol' (440GX?) servers in the late 90's that supported up to 8GB of ram which is still a good size today and in my experience ram is the single most important thing of any aging computer. CPU speed doesn't matter as much. See if I'm not right...

Quite a debate it's been, hasn't it? I appreciate the contributions to the topic. I don't reject all information, I compare it to the truths I've learned. I'm not paranoid, I know the truth and I hope sooner or later you come to believe me. Save yourself and your families. I deleted my Facebook early last year and I also use anonymous search providers like Startpage. Fight back, protest. Don't let your rights smother into dust. Fight for your freedom. I sign online petitions from time to time to help the cause, among other injustices.

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As in tighten up ye ole buttocks and pray You know Pucker... Pucker up...





And yet here we are trying, and there you are rejecting






There's a cure for that, it's called reading, learning and trying.






Correction, antiquated hardware guy. You're playing around with stuff that if it is still supported it won't be much longer, the updates you install are the last ones the developers do. As for games, 5+-year-old games do not compare to modern ones and IF a modern game runs on 5+-year-old hardware they do so poorly.







I remember the good ole days too, but you won't find me booting up the Commodore 64 and running games in DOS to play Temple of Apshai.






Wow really? People trick other people? Who'd have thunk it Welcome to life, I'm smilinjohn (and if you think I was born with that name...) glad to meet you...


Read, learn, try. You said you were always looking for new information, read, learn, try


Read reviews and learn what a VPN is, does and why it's a good idea to use one. It's not just for illegal downloads, though a lot of that does go on with a VPN, I use a VPN to keep my ISP from selling my browsing history to marketing firms





Exactly, and older hardware is easier to crack than newer hardware is.





That's the thing that gets me when people question me about having an Amazon Alexa device. No, I don't worry about it, I don't do or talk about doing illegal stuff, it gets its internet connection from a segmented wireless network that doesn't have access to my wired network. Is it 100%? No probably not, but it is far from unsecured.


I'm not so important that the goberment is going to focus their attention on me, I'm a middle-aged, unemployed, fulltime student who likes to fish and build high-end PCs. A danger to the country hardly, the only danger I pose is to the bass population at my local lakes.






Agreed, though I do know a few guys like the OP in Montana annnnd that's why I came back to Kentucky





I think it's a tie between FB and Google





Because while they actively monitor the internet they aren't trying to make money off of your data, they are looking for threats to the country and their authority FB, on the other hand, is trying to profit off of your kitten picks, knowing you dog is puking on your new carpet, and what you had for a midnight snack
LOL, hilarious post. Older hardware is less secure than modern hardware and Montana is worse than Kentucky. I lolled hard.

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