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Recommend me a UPS/Surge protector

So I just moved and now when it gets super windy and stormy, which happens often in Houston, the power will flicker. One computer shuts off the other doesn't. This has become quite annoying so I feel like I need a UPS. Also I read on here that Belkin surge protectors suck? If mine is fine then I will leave it be. I honestly just want my computer not to shut off when the power goes out. It doesn't even go out all the way it just dims and my computer shuts off so it is quite annoying. Not looking to spend a ton either. I have my router, 34" monitor, 2x27" monitors, 2xcomputers, phone charger, printer, obviously all the peripherals, and my Klipsch speakers hooked up. I presume I can just run the power trip into the UPS and be good to go.

I've never looked into these and while I probably will still spend a week researching I would like to get a head start atleast to figure out what I need/want. Thanks!

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I've been curious about this for my home as well, so I've subbed to see the suggestions.
I did come across this article - https://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-uni...es-ups-for-pc/
The first suggestion, and most expensive, on the list appears to be the way to go. But if your modem/router aren't sitting by your pc, you'd probably have to grab another UPS to prevent them from rebooting on you. In my case, I would probably have to grab a third for my network switch as well.

If some more educated voices could chime in to shed some light on the particulars...

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Depends on budget but only pure sine wave is worth messing with
APC/ cyber power are pretty good or anything with pure sine wave basically all it has to do is stay on for a 10 minutes so even a 600w is okay
I'd just leave pc and monitor on it everything else just on surge protection

Micro center has some or amazon/...
I usually get at least two year instore warranty at micro center in case one dies out of the blue and I don't have to mail rma it.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Iconoclast View Post
I've been curious about this for my home as well, so I've subbed to see the suggestions.
I did come across this article - https://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-uni...es-ups-for-pc/
The first suggestion, and most expensive, on the list appears to be the way to go. But if your modem/router aren't sitting by your pc, you'd probably have to grab another UPS to prevent them from rebooting on you. In my case, I would probably have to grab a third for my network switch as well.

If some more educated voices could chime in to shed some light on the particulars...
All of my things just plug into my power strip. Which I assumed I could just plug said power strip into UPS. Atleast that is what I hope since I routed all the cords to work exactly where it is at lol.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Depends on budget but only pure sine wave is worth messing with
APC/ cyber power are pretty good or anything with pure sine wave basically all it has to do is stay on for a 10 minutes so even a 600w is okay
I'd just leave pc and monitor on it everything else just on surge protection

Micro center has some or amazon/...
I usually get at least two year instore warranty at micro center in case one dies out of the blue and I don't have to mail rma it.
So I couldn't just plug my power strip surge protector thing into said UPS and call it a day? I don't really have much of an idea how much power my stuff draws. What really gets me is one computer shuts off the other stays on when the lights would dim. Unfortunately it is my gaming rig that shuts off! Literally all I care about is it staying on like 60 seconds. That is enough for me in the case of a full power outage. But my main concern is just the lights dimming is enough to shut off the computer so I figured UPS would solve that. Like the power is partially going out? Idk

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https://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-uni...es-ups-for-pc/

"Besides your gaming PC, UPS can extend their protections to anything that's plugged into them, including the best gaming monitor or other electronics. They may not necessarily be at the top of anyone's list when shopping for accessories for their next extreme gaming PC build, but this relatively small investment can pay big dividends. Their robust nature means you'll likely only ever have to buy a single one, and the versatility of the protection they offer means that you don't even need a gaming PC to enjoy the benefits.

Put simply, UPS' are basically just large car batteries strapped to surge protectors. They charge via your wall outlet and switch to battery power in the event of a catastrophic power loss. This is meant to keep your PC and other appliances running long enough for you to save whatever you were doing and shut things down properly, not to wrap up that Destiny 2 raid. There are few things you can buy for your rig that'll help protect against acts of god, but a good uninterruptible power supply will do just that."

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Quote: Originally Posted by Johnn999 View Post
So I couldn't just plug my power strip surge protector thing into said UPS and call it a day? I don't really have much of an idea how much power my stuff draws. What really gets me is one computer shuts off the other stays on when the lights would dim. Unfortunately it is my gaming rig that shuts off! Literally all I care about is it staying on like 60 seconds. That is enough for me in the case of a full power outage. But my main concern is just the lights dimming is enough to shut off the computer so I figured UPS would solve that. Like the power is partially going out? Idk
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Probably have too much stuff on the same circuit if lights are dimming a lot.
You need to figure out what all is connected on the wall outlet like light switches for other rooms/.....

Backup battery will output a steady current but if it's coming on all the time you do need to figure out why eventually
Might have to move computer to a better power plug source or disconnect what other items are plugged into the same circuit then all you have to deal with is mother nature

Sine wave not simulated all the cheap ones are simulated sine wave and also some expensive ones so price does not insure sine wave = ask seller.
I have one of these compared to what computers cost it's well worth it
https://www.microcenter.com/product/...oax-protection

APC also but like I said 2 year instore warranty minimum if it goes out you get a free one
https://www.microcenter.com/product/...on,-10-outlets

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UPS would definitely be a good idea. I wouldn't plug your loaded power strip into the UPS. At the very least, plug your PCs into separate outlets on the UPS since they draw the most power.

I personally own a CP1500PFCLCD (which is the one recommended in that first linked article.) I got it for the pure sine, and the capacity, since I have a lot of power hungry equipment.

I don't really have any budget recommendations. A lot of the lower end stuff isn't very good. I used to be a big APC fan, but they are starting to make units that don't have a battery access door to allow you to easily swap out the battery once it goes bad. Have had some mixed results with Tripp Lite. Cyberpower overall has been good in my experience.

The cheaper simulated sine wave units suck. At work we have ~160 workstations. Each one has a small UPS. When we get weird power flickers, some of the PCs still shut off.

Simulated sine wave output form produces a zero-output state during the phase change cycle resulting in a power "gap". This gap may cause power interruption for equipment with Active PFC power supplies when switching from AC power output to simulated sine wave output (battery mode).

Basically, when you switch to battery mode on a simulated sine UPS with a active PFC power supply (most modern computers have this), the computer may still turn off.

So I would recommend getting a pure sine unit. If you don't want to splurge for a larger unit, get one big enough for your PCs and networking equipment. The printer, speakers, peripherals, etc. can just stay on a separate surge protector since they come right back up anyway.

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CP1500PFCLCD hands down, had it for years. It does not have any BS square sine waves either that fried my last PSU.

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If you just want a surge protector. Look at isobar ultra's.

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