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[BestBuy.com] 2TB Samsung 860 QVO SSD $160 Shipped

Bestbuy.com is currently offering the 2TB Samsung 860 QVO SSD (Refurbished) for just $159.99. Shipping is FREE.

Link - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...?skuId=6351457


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In the trash it goes, I bought a Crucial P1 by mistake at microcenter in a hurry and was hella burned hard for how slow that thing was once the SLC cache burns out moving large data in. Worst QLC SSD was probably my worst HW purchase in ages.

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Looks like I had an influence on sales. All sold out now but they had stock for months before I posted. BBY should hire me haha.

Also, I can't believe they're that terrible. Can't be as bad as a spinning HDD at least.

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It doesn't screech and beep and bop like spinning drives, no. If copying large files over gigabytes, then write speeds slow down to SATA1 speeds, like 100MB/s.

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Yep it's better than an HDD in terms of construction and noise but that's about it for these QLC SSDs. They should cost the same as equal capacity HDD, then they would be worth considering.
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Honest question: why would you buy a refurb SSD? What recourse do you have if you test it and it has been subjected to (overly) heavy writes reducing lifespan? What's the return window for refurb stuff?

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Looks like I had an influence on sales. All sold out now but they had stock for months before I posted. BBY should hire me haha.

Also, I can't believe they're that terrible. Can't be as bad as a spinning HDD at least.
I made the mistake of buying QLC drives for a work box, which sees (short) heavy write load, followed by long periods of heavy read load.

If you never do large transfers, QLC drives are fine. If, on the other hand, you ever write large chunks of data at once, they will actually end up slower than a decent HDD (~100MB/s) after transferring ~50GB.

If they were a bit cheaper, I'd use QLC drives on any system which would not see heavy write load. But for most of my purposes, I'll stick with MLC/TLC.

That said, as the technology matures more, I expect the controllers will improve and we won't see such painful performance loss.

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Yep it's better than an HDD in terms of construction and noise but that's about it for these QLC SSDs. They should cost the same as equal capacity HDD, then they would be worth considering.
Pretty much, although I'd say if a 2TB one matched the price of a 4TB HDD, I'd look at them more favourably. Parity in pricing is probably asking too much.


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I won't consider a QLC SSD until there's maybe a 50% price premium compared to a similar capacity HDD. For a 2TB SSD, it would need to be in the $75-100 range for me to consider.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter View Post
Honest question: why would you buy a refurb SSD? What recourse do you have if you test it and it has been subjected to (overly) heavy writes reducing lifespan? What's the return window for refurb stuff?


I made the mistake of buying QLC drives for a work box, which sees (short) heavy write load, followed by long periods of heavy read load.

If you never do large transfers, QLC drives are fine. If, on the other hand, you ever write large chunks of data at once, they will actually end up slower than a decent HDD (~100MB/s) after transferring ~50GB.
Sounds like you are using the drive in a professional type setting and would benefit from something like the 860 Pro.

I see it as being better than buying second hand. At least this way you have a standardized avenue for recourse if the drive turns out to be a turd. Just bring it back to the store - You can buy online and return in store.

I do large transfers fairly often and am staying with WD Red drives for my use case. Doesn't make financial sense to replace 10TB+ of spinning rust with SSD's just yet.

Also this is sold out guys. Deal will more than likely be dead when they come back in stock - Expect to see a price hike.

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Sounds like you are using the drive in a professional type setting and would benefit from something like the 860 Pro.

I see it as being better than buying second hand. At least this way you have a standardized avenue for recourse if the drive turns out to be a turd. Just bring it back to the store - You can buy online and return in store.

I do large transfers fairly often and am staying with WD Red drives for my use case. Doesn't make financial sense to replace 10TB+ of spinning rust with SSD's just yet.
I'd not buy a drive of any description second hand anyway, so it's something of a moot point. Horses for courses, though. I guess it makes more sense in that respect.


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