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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-07-2020, 01:16 PM - Thread Starter
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Can someone educate me RE: video file formats/containers and Adobe Premiere?

Every single file of HD or 4K content that I seem to download from the internet is in the matroksa format (.mkv)

When I wish to edit these videos, programs like Adobe Premiere will not open that type of container file (there was a few updates where it did, but they removed it).

So I am forced to use ffmpeg to convert the file from .mkv to .mp4 so that I can then import it into Premiere and edit it.

Why on earth is every single ripper/remuxer using .mkv to rip to instead of mp4? I am fairly certain it has to do with money but Ive not found a really good answer yet.

Plz halp.

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-07-2020, 03:11 PM
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you should be mad at Adobe for removing support for it, lol

mkv is open source and supports neat things like multiple audio tracks and multiple subtitle languages, but an mp4 and an mkv rendered at the same settings should look identical.

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Im not disagreeing about Adobe being crappy but what I am trying to understand is why everyone in the torrent scene is using mkv for their REMUX or rip.

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Quote: Originally Posted by z390e View Post
Every single file of HD or 4K content that I seem to download from the internet is in the matroksa format (.mkv)

When I wish to edit these videos, programs like Adobe Premiere will not open that type of container file (there was a few updates where it did, but they removed it).

So I am forced to use ffmpeg to convert the file from .mkv to .mp4 so that I can then import it into Premiere and edit it.

Why on earth is every single ripper/remuxer using .mkv to rip to instead of mp4? I am fairly certain it has to do with money but Ive not found a really good answer yet.

Plz halp.
Because MP4 sucks and MKV is better and free. Problem is some paid software loves to work with only proprietary formats as they expect you to edit a camera footage and cameras don't really make MKVs because the audio visual industry is stuck with HDMI and MP4 etc.

Not using Adobe and Premiere is the first step.

As far as your pirating reference, pirates are not known for using crappy formats and so on, they want the best so they use the best unlike corporations who don't care about quality. There are rules for it too, what to use and how, all else gets rejected and if it slips by then it gets PROPERed later. Format, codecs, bitrates, total sizes, it's all defined for pirates at least the proper ones not the everyday joe leaking some rubbish on torrent or reencoding for a phone to awful quality.
Plus changing MP4 to MKV and back is instant on a fast drive. You don't need to reencode anything. At least not MP4 to MKV, the other way there are some formats and data that MP4 won't like/doesn't support. MP4 is often H264 and AAC, not sure it supports say VP9 and OPUS.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Because MP4 sucks and MKV is better and free. Problem is some paid software loves to work with only proprietary formats as they expect you to edit a camera footage and cameras don't really make MKVs because the audio visual industry is stuck with HDMI and MP4 etc.

Not using Adobe and Premiere is the first step.

As far as your pirating reference, pirates are not known for using crappy formats and so on, they want the best so they use the best unlike corporations who don't care about quality. There are rules for it too, what to use and how, all else gets rejected and if it slips by then it gets PROPERed later. Format, codecs, bitrates, total sizes, it's all defined for pirates at least the proper ones not the everyday joe leaking some rubbish on torrent or reencoding for a phone to awful quality.
Plus changing MP4 to MKV and back is instant on a fast drive. You don't need to reencode anything. At least not MP4 to MKV, the other way there are some formats and data that MP4 won't like/doesn't support. MP4 is often H264 and AAC, not sure it supports say VP9 and OPUS.

Its the other way around MKV > MP4 that is the issue. Main problem I see is codecs not supported in mp4. Just annoying as hell. Totally agree RE: Adobe and Premiere. What video editer software do you recommend for lossless encoding on Windows OS?

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What video editer software do you recommend for lossless encoding on Windows OS?
Have you looked at Avidemux?

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Was it Blender, that allowed remuxing as well?
Its been a while since i dealt with this.
There are free open source applications,that are far better than the Adobe products, especially for exactly this.

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