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post #5171 of 7380 (permalink) Old 07-15-2013, 03:06 PM
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Waterfox is a great effort and I appreciate the work of the developers.

One improvement I would suggest is making builds available that are compiled for AMD processors, because currently the Waterfox builds are compiled by Intel compilers. Waterfox does run on 64-bit AMD processors but it is significantly slower than 64-bit Internet Explorer and 32-bit Google Chrome. AMD processors are loaded with extensions (SSE4, AVX, etc.) and I'm sure you can crank more performance out if you build specifically for AMD processors.
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post #5172 of 7380 (permalink) Old 07-15-2013, 10:41 PM
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Waterfox is a great effort and I appreciate the work of the developers.

+1 I'm sure MrAlex is reading this thread just like we are as he prepares the next wf release!
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One improvement I would suggest is making builds available that are compiled for AMD processors, because currently the Waterfox builds are compiled by Intel compilers.

The 64bit Cyberfox comes in two flavors - one for AMD, one for Intel. Did you try it and ran some benchmarks? It would be interesting to know if this really makes a difference ... question is if the Intel compiler that is used for wf can be told to optimize for AMD, afaik Cyberfox uses the good ol' msvc.
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+1 I'm sure MrAlex is reading this thread just like we are as he prepares the next wf release!
The 64bit Cyberfox comes in two flavors - one for AMD, one for Intel. Did you try it and ran some benchmarks? It would be interesting to know if this really makes a difference ... question is if the Intel compiler that is used for wf can be told to optimize for AMD, afaik Cyberfox uses the good ol' msvc.

Hey Marsu24 I can see that you really need some help with your information on a number of things.

First why do you after every new firefox build come here and say wait for the next version. Why don't you leave release dates to the DEV considering this is his support thread and instead of annoying the many users that check here by saying wait for the next one wait for the next one are you some kind of fortune teller in your spare time ? You have no clue or idea when the next one will be so leave it to the DEV to let people know and stop giving false information.

Second while on the topic of false information you do realize that almost every single 3rd party browser compiled from the firefox code all use the intel c++ compiler for their builds almost all of the with the exception of palemoon I believe is the only one that does not, this should be common sense to you as well considering you say you use cyberfox correct with their 2 builds you know...

Intel version compiled with the intel c++ compiler ( also they have always used the intel compiler from the first build ever made as for some reason you can't seem to understand this fact )

AMD version does not use the intel c++ compiler as the intel c++ compiler can have adverse effects on non intel machines hence why there is 2 different builds.

Third yes it does make a difference for the 2 computers in fact a lot of the time the AMD version will out score the intel version on intel machines as well in benchmarks, considering I run both AMD and intel machines and have tested both versions.

So try leaving the information part of this thread to the people that know what they are talking of rather then providing false information to the many users here and annoying them with fortune telling predictions that you have no idea about.
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Hey Marsu24 I can see that you really need some help with your information on a number of things.

First why do you after every new firefox build come here and say wait for the next version. Why don't you leave release dates to the DEV considering this is his support thread and instead of annoying the many users that check here by saying wait for the next one wait for the next one are you some kind of fortune teller in your spare time ? You have no clue or idea when the next one will be so leave it to the DEV to let people know and stop giving false information.

Second while on the topic of false information you do realize that almost every single 3rd party browser compiled from the firefox code all use the intel c++ compiler for their builds almost all of the with the exception of palemoon I believe is the only one that does not, this should be common sense to you as well considering you say you use cyberfox correct with their 2 builds you know...

Intel version compiled with the intel c++ compiler ( also they have always used the intel compiler from the first build ever made as for some reason you can't seem to understand this fact )

AMD version does not use the intel c++ compiler as the intel c++ compiler can have adverse effects on non intel machines hence why there is 2 different builds.

Third yes it does make a difference for the 2 computers in fact a lot of the time the AMD version will out score the intel version on intel machines as well in benchmarks, considering I run both AMD and intel machines and have tested both versions.

So try leaving the information part of this thread to the people that know what they are talking of rather then providing false information to the many users here and annoying them with fortune telling predictions that you have no idea about.

This is exactly my predicament on this guy. There are several users here that swears that guy even just for his presence in this thread. He started as a Cyberfox fanboy lurking in this thread and now he promotes Waterfox as if he makes a living out of it.

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This is exactly my predicament on this guy. There are several users here that swears that guy even just for his presence in this thread. He started as a Cyberfox fanboy lurking in this thread and now he promotes Waterfox as if he makes a living out of it.

He comes across almost as some kind of religious nut. Apparently the mods are to be thanked for removing all the negative posts, and it's 'only' 3 or 4 months since the developer posted something to twitter (not here mind you) - so what's all the fuss about ? Those of us who are faithful will have our patience rewarded when the next version of WF is released. The same day it happens, the planets will align and a new era of world peace will begin .....
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IE is in 64 bit
Chrome, Firefox, Opera should follow suit
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He comes across almost as some kind of religious nut.

I sincerely object to this statement, for me the wf community is a place where nice people meet and don't call each other names - what's being wrong with hoping for a wf comeback? Plus if you would have taken some secs to look, I always answer to other's posts and try to discuss a specific issue, so if you have a problem it's not with me but with the people who dare to post in this official thread at all ... you're just abusing it for flaming me I'm sorry to say.
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He started as a Cyberfox fanboy lurking in this thread and now he promotes Waterfox as if he makes a living out of it.

There's your problem: You seem to be set on thinking in "fanboy" categories, while I (like a lot of others) discussed if cf is a viable alternative in the absence of wf updates - that didn't and doesn't conflict with me preferring the intel-compiled wf.
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So try leaving the information part of this thread to the people that know what they are talking of rather then providing false information to the many users here and annoying them with fortune telling predictions that you have no idea about.

I didn't provide false information on the compiler, I specifically formulated it as a question (see the post above), so thank you very much for providing useful insight about that compiler business!
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IE is in 64 bit
Chrome, Firefox, Opera should follow suit

It is very unlikely ff will provide an official 64bit build in the near or med future, they were just talked out of dropping the 64 bit nightly. Reasons seem to be too much support and poor plugin support, I don't agree with this, but there you are. Opera is 64bit, and concerning Chrome, I never read anything about their plans for 64bit in any direction - does anyone know?
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Apparently the mods are to be thanked for removing all the negative posts, and it's 'only' 3 or 4 months

+1, here we are in complete agreement as I have pointed out more than once, I thank the mods again for keeping this thread clean and I also think a couple of months doesn't mean anything definitive - though it might be safe to say that wf isn't released/supported as readily as cf. But that might change anytime, so keep scanning this thread!
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concerning Chrome, I never read anything about their plans for 64bit in any direction - does anyone know?!

64-bit Chromium Windows builds are now being compiled.
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Opera is 64bit!

Was 64-bit. When they switched to Chromium/Blink, they stopped 64-bit builds. I suspect that's why 64-bit Chromium builds started to appear over two weeks ago so 64-bit Opera builds will be released again at some point.

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So I have been a fan of waterfox since I joined OCN last year. But now that Mr. Alex has stopped working on this project. I have switched to the AMD version of Cyberfox. So far not bad everything loads better and no more Adobe crashing or massive lag spikes from a memory issue.

I'm sorry to see that Mr. Alex won't even report that he will not continue this project anymore or pass it onto another programer that has more free time.

R.I.P. Waterfox you where a great program. And props for Mr. Alex for keeping it going as long as he did for free.
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I'm sorry to see that Mr. Alex won't even report that he will not continue this project anymore or pass it onto another programer that has more free time.

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Is there any confirmation that Waterfox is dead?
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