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so he was high on weed when he posted some dank joke, and now hes getting sued for it?

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Total nonsense, SEC Bureaucrats going well over their skis. Musk is an important asset to the United States and should be left alone to his own Devices.
Won't somebody look out for the insane billionaires??

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Won't somebody look out for the insane billionaires??
the phrase "money makes the world go round" isn't just some random saying.

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Or maybe he shouldn't violate securities laws in the public domain?
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So lying to investors is fine, as long as you're cool enough?
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I had no idea about what any of your were on about but I Googled it after reading this:



really?!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...weed-joke.html



no one laughed at your dank jokes and then you get sued over it.

feels bad man.
What did he lie about though? Twitter is as public as you can get. Also, he has already said that the 420 was a good round number to say good luck. It had nothing to do with what people are thinking about. People just love to bash Elon because it's a cool thing to do.

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While I am a fan of Elon's early work and SpaceX, Tesla is a hot mess.

Severely over-leveraged, terrible quality control, manufacturing nightmares, inappropriately acquired subsidiaries (solar city), Executives abandoning ship left and right, calling wall street analysis boring when they raised serious questions, horrendous social media (Thailand "Pedo Diver" Cave rescue, Tesla Private Buyout threats), etc, etc.

I think Elon is digging an early grave with this Tesla business and is probably gonna get "Cosbyied"
Citation needed. Wallstreet at the moment is completely over leveraged. This includes, NVIDIA/AMD/Amazon/Netflix. As for QC, no company is perfect but it's how you manage the problem and find a quick solution to which Tesla has been very quick to find and has done very well.

Yes Tesla doesn't allow you to change or alter its Tesla. I'd like proof to show that their solarcity has been a failure. Based on what metric? Executive leaves because they want to do other ventures after they've done what they were intended to be there for. They also leave to find better opportunities because life changes and your circumstances change. It has nothing to do with the company.

Right now, everyone loves to write negative stories about Elon because it generates clicks/revenue for those journalists and we are all drawn by negativity. OCN is a classic example where hostility erupts out of no where.

If you want a dodgy company that doesn't make it in the news, BMW is a classic example



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What did he lie about though? Twitter is as public as you can get. Also, he has already said that the 420 was a good round number to say good luck. It had nothing to do with what people are thinking about. People just love to bash Elon because it's a cool thing to do.


Citation needed. Wallstreet at the moment is completely over leveraged. This includes, NVIDIA/AMD/Amazon/Netflix. As for QC, no company is perfect but it's how you manage the problem and find a quick solution to which Tesla has been very quick to find and has done very well.

Yes Tesla doesn't allow you to change or alter its Tesla. I'd like proof to show that their solarcity has been a failure. Based on what metric? Executive leaves because they want to do other ventures after they've done what they were intended to be there for. They also leave to find better opportunities because life changes and your circumstances change. It has nothing to do with the company.

Right now, everyone loves to write negative stories about Elon because it generates clicks/revenue for those journalists and we are all drawn by negativity. OCN is a classic example where hostility erupts out of no where.

If you want a dodgy company that doesn't make it in the news, BMW is a classic example
LOL, your not my supervisor. The information is more than out there.

My crystal ball says:

Tesla Bankruptcy
Elon being removed from Tesla
SEC Kangaroo Circuis
Elon being removed from SpaceX
Jail

Yeah like a really bad song on the radio that the station keeps repeating and repeating.
In time you find yourself tapping your foot and singing along.
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Elon musk seems like a egotistical fool who is over estimating his brilliance.

And most of his projects are fanciful dreams.

i dont see spacex being successful
solar tiles have never taken off
tesla cars are gonna struggle when the competition starts showing up.

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Elon musk seems like a egotistical fool who is over estimating his brilliance.
And most of his projects are fanciful dreams.

i dont see spacex being successful
solar tiles have never taken off
tesla cars are gonna struggle when the competition starts showing up.
Dreams huh?

I have some bad news for you, SpaceX is already successful, the Falcon 9 had the most launches in 2017, and its on track to do the same in 2018. And it hasn't gotten those launches just because, its because its on of the most capable and affordable medium launch vehicles available atm. SpaceX is by far the most successful launch provider atm.

The solar tiles probably have never taken of because they're still in development? not entirely sure what you're getting at here.

Are they going to struggle? The upcoming competition is looking pretty lackluster, and its not like tesla is standing still, by the time said competition comes, tesla's will have gotten better, and manufacturing will have increased too.

There are many arguments to bash Musk with, but yours range between poor and flat out wrong. I suggest you take a neutral stance and look into facts instead of parroting the Musk hate parade.
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Dreams huh?

I have some bad news for you, SpaceX is already successful, the Falcon 9 had the most launches in 2017, and its on track to do the same in 2018. And it hasn't gotten those launches just because, its because its on of the most capable and affordable medium launch vehicles available atm. SpaceX is by far the most successful launch provider atm.

The solar tiles probably have never taken of because they're still in development? not entirely sure what you're getting at here.

Are they going to struggle? The upcoming competition is looking pretty lackluster, and its not like tesla is standing still, by the time said competition comes, tesla's will have gotten better, and manufacturing will have increased too.

There are many arguments to bash Musk with, but yours range between poor and flat out wrong. I suggest you take a neutral stance and look into facts instead of parroting the Musk hate parade.
1. SpaceX is built around subsidies. lets see how it holds for the next 10 years.
2. solar tiles are just a big basket of nonsense that is getting peddled around. How many houses have they done so far. Can the cost of tiles even be recuperated?
3. There is nothing special about tesla cars. No special patents not technological advantage. Yes they look ahead right now but that's just advantage they have cause they got there first. give it 5-10 years, VW, GM, Nissan etc will out produce Tesla and put pressure on tesla price point. watch what will happen to tesla then. They don't have a niche market to hide behind. let's see if tesla even survives 10 years.

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1. SpaceX is built around subsidies. lets see how it holds for the next 10 years.
2. solar tiles are just a big basket of nonsense that is getting peddled around. How many houses have they done so far. Can the cost of tiles even be recuperated?
3. There is nothing special about tesla cars. No special patents not technological advantage. Yes they look ahead right now but that's just advantage they have cause they got there first. give it 5-10 years, VW, GM, Nissan etc will out produce Tesla and put pressure on tesla price point. watch what will happen to tesla then. They don't have a niche market to hide behind. let's see if tesla even survives 10 years.
  1. If with subsidies, you mean government/NASA contacts, sure. But so is every other US launch provider, and SpaceX is the most efficient and cost effective of them by far. No other launch provider other than maybe Blue has anything in the works to even be competitive with the F9 B5, let alone the BFR if that ever makes it.
  2. Only a few roofs have been installed for costumers near certain locations as a testing program, its looking like the cost can be recuperated for people that need a tile roof regardless, if you just want solar panels, regular panels are by far more cost effetive. But the solar roof tiles arre loking like they'll be more cost effective than getting both regular tiles and solar panels. So these probably won't be for everyone, but that doesn't mean they're nonesense.
  3. If there's nothing special about tesla cars, why aren't the upcoming competitors better than the current Tesla's. If their announced models for 2020 can't even compete with the current models, they'll look even worse in 2020. The model 3 (post panel-gap issue models) are looking extremely competitive even compared to regular cars, its not for nothing they're selling like hotcakes even though the entry-level model isn't even available.
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Tesla is the PUBG of the automotive world

SpaceX...well they are the PUBG of rocket science lol

Actually that is an insult to PUBG as Bluehole has actually made profit!

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