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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
...Finding music that I paid for in FLAC is difficult enough a lot of the time, and often are just upscaled 320kbps MP3...
That's one reason I prefer to buy my music on CDs. There is a far better chance of getting better quality audio than from downloads.

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Weren't reel-to-reel tape recorders the method by which masters were made in recording studios back in the 60's and 70's?
Yep but those tapes maintained audio quality only because they received limited use. Regularly playing back music from even reel to reel tapes subjected them to fidelity reduction due to wearing the magnetic layer, wearing the read heads, and introducing wow due to tape stretch.

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Why would you fan read only flash FLAC? Just finally offer FLAC download. Then if you want to you can put it on a flash of your choosing.

Yes there are some nice master tapes as in tapes that sound great converted to digital. Why? Because they are as close to the original source as possible and weren't butchered by decades of mastering and remastering of some poor master copy of a copy of a copy. It's ridiculous what studios will sell nowadays when enthusiasts are able to buy, legally a better rare tape. Studios don't bother to seek better quality source for their dated music. At least newer music is now digital and more immune to degradation over time. Done right I dare anyone spot analog from digital source.
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My all digital library of .flac CD rips running through a sound card and good headphones blows that away.

The whole point of the audio fidelity game is that you want to get the closest you can to the sound that was made when that band or whatever was in the recording studio
You should consider buying a different DAC altogether, then, if you're really worried about sound fidelity.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...und-card.4915/

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You should consider buying a different DAC altogether, then, if you're really worried about sound fidelity.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...und-card.4915/

I wonder if the STX II has the same random ear-destroying noise that affected the original STX.


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You should consider buying a different DAC altogether, then, if you're really worried about sound fidelity.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...und-card.4915/

Oh believe me I'm aware that it's not the greatest, it's laughable in some circles. My point was that even that setup blows the doors off a vinyl/analog setup if the gear is crap. Really it's an alright soundcard for a soundcard.

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We know that tape media is the absolute cheapest storage type there is for data archiving, there's no reason digital cassette players shouldn't be highly competitive... as long as you want to play all of your music in sequence every time.
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Oh believe me I'm aware that it's not the greatest, it's laughable in some circles. My point was that even that setup blows the doors off a vinyl/analog setup if the gear is crap. Really it's an alright soundcard for a soundcard.
I'm just saying, your soundcard is the bottleneck by far. You have good headphones (considered legendary in the mid/hi-fi category) and they might not be being used fully because of your DAC. I used to have the first iteration of the STX way back when (which is, measurably, better than the STX II) and I could notice the difference with a pair of HD598's against an external "chi-fi" DAC straight away.

Looking at the external DAC market nowadays, you could probably sell your STX II, buy something much better, and keep the change.

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I wonder if the STX II has the same random ear-destroying noise that affected the original STX.

https://youtu.be/iZqELNjFh0o
Curious. My STX didn't have that noise. It had great sound without any noise right out of the box with no modifications. Other reviews from users or reviewers that actually used or tested it gave it high marks. The guy in your Youtube review either was doing something wrong or he was just unlucky enough to get a bad one.

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We know that tape media is the absolute cheapest storage type there is for data archiving, there's no reason digital cassette players shouldn't be highly competitive... as long as you want to play all of your music in sequence every time.
You are comparing apples to kumquats.

As far as tape being the cheapest media for data archiving goes, have you checked the price of the hardware needed to record and retrieve the data lately? Also, the data is stored digitally, not as analog, on those tapes. The cassettes used for audio were crappy in quality compared to the ones used for computer archival.

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You should consider buying a different DAC altogether, then, if you're really worried about sound fidelity.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...und-card.4915/
At the time I bought my Xonar Essence STX (on sale, btw) several years ago, the external DACs still cost more, had fewer features, and ate up room I didn't have. The DragonFly Red USB DAC I'm using right now cost me a little more when bought it a few months ago (also on sale) but has the advantage that it takes up less room than either most external DACs and internal sound cards (I'm using my notebook until I can finish building a new computer to replace the one that died earlier this year. The sound is slightly better but the Dragonfly has fewer playback options that the STX did since it's just plug'n'play with no driver.

Keep in mind the sound one gets from a soundcard or a DAC compared to motherboard sound is going to be highly dependent on the speakers or headphones being used and the tastes of the listener.

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You are comparing apples to kumquats.

As far as tape being the cheapest media for data archiving goes, have you checked the price of the hardware needed to record and retrieve the data lately? Also, the data is stored digitally, not as analog, on those tapes. The cassettes used for audio were crappy in quality compared to the ones used for computer archival.
The price of the hardware is entirely a matter of economy of scale.

While it's not relevant to music players right now, it's no joke that tape media as a technology is far from obsolete. Even if it's currently obscure there is a lot of potential there.
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