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post #81 of 89 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 09:37 PM
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Well, what better way to create demand for loans and CC utilization than to make an instructional video teaching you how to ruin the expensive computer parts you just bought?
Ya know what, that is an angle I never even considered (though perhaps its a bit too conspiratorial for belief). I just thought the Capital One sponsorship was really embarrassing for both The Verge and Capital One, but what if it was actually an intentional attempt to get people to ruin their hardware, thus needing more of Capital One's services? Clearly the presenter was genuinely clueless about the entire process of building a PC (perhaps that's why they chose him in the first place?) but they allowed him to just bumble through the whole build on purpose anyway? In fact, some of the mistakes made in the build were actually fixed before the POST test was performed (they did eventually put fans on the radiator for example), so maybe the angle was that they allowed him to screw up every facet of the build process but then fixed it later in order to ensure that the PC still did function. That way all of the horrific mistakes shown in the tutorial would appear to be OK, since the PC did work after all.

Nah, that's just a little bit too tinfoil for me to accept, but it is an interesting thought I hadn't even considered. I suppose you could argue that they did eventually remove the video, but not before a slew of people could conceivably have ruined their hardware (possibly profiting Capital One) and they did almost immediately disable comments and the Like/Dislike option, which would keep those first-time builders completely ignorant of the scam. Interesting...


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yeah fine for them. saved the video just because. it's hilarious btw.
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What should you use?

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So what should I buy to properly ground myself, if I'm not in an industrial assembly factory?
One of these will work just fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Grou.../dp/B004N8ZQKY

These however do not work.
https://www.amazon.com/Livestrong-Ye...trong+bracelet

Alternatively you can develop a habit of always touching the case and power supply of the system while you are building to make sure that you have not built up a static charge. (YMMV depending on how dry your work environment is..)

Note that the proper cord from Amazon is called an ESD or Anti shock wristband and not a ground strap. It is designed to prevent an electrostatic discharge between you and the components you are working on, not to ground you.

Ask the electrician. The last thing you want to be when working on electronics is for your body to be grounded separately. If something goes wrong and your body becomes the path to ground you can end up hurt or dead.

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One of these will work just fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Grou.../dp/B004N8ZQKY

These however do not work.
https://www.amazon.com/Livestrong-Ye...trong+bracelet

Alternatively you can develop a habit of always touching the case and power supply of the system while you are building to make sure that you have not built up a static charge. (YMMV depending on how dry your work environment is..)

Note that the proper cord from Amazon is called an ESD or Anti shock wristband and not a ground strap. It is designed to prevent an electrostatic discharge between you and the components you are working on, not to ground you.

Ask the electrician. The last thing you want to be when working on electronics is for your body to be grounded separately. If something goes wrong and your body becomes the path to ground you can end up hurt or dead.





I think I have something that's similar to the first one, but I bought it on ebay and the color is blue.


Not the exact one but similar: https://www.ebay.com/itm/121653424560



Would that work?



I have it attached to my case (metal).


What would happen, let's say, if I work on a separate electronic not connected to my case? Would there be a risk of ESD?
Ie: working on motherboard separately on a deskmat, opening my laptop etc.

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Yep.

Quote: Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
I think I have something that's similar to the first one, but I bought it on ebay and the color is blue.

Not the exact one but similar: https://www.ebay.com/itm/121653424560

Would that work?

I have it attached to my case (metal).

What would happen, let's say, if I work on a separate electronic not connected to my case? Would there be a risk of ESD?
Ie: working on motherboard separately on a deskmat, opening my laptop etc.
The one you have should work just fine. If you really want to be extra safe, you can buy work space mats that you can connect your wrist to but in most cases it would be overkill. This one is similar to the one we used at work.

https://www.amazon.com/24x27-5in-Bei...gateway&sr=8-5

The biggest worry is the initial discharge when you move into your work area or touch the first component that has metal. Unless you work in a really dry environment, like to brush you hair constantly while working, or have a mostly polyester wardrobe you should be ok.

I used to work with a guy that had a polyester wardrobe and was constantly combing his hair. He could make you jump three feet in the air if he built up a good static charge. Liked to walk up behind people and touch them on the earlobe while they were soldering. I nearly stabbed him with my soldering iron a couple of times.


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All that stuff is overkill unless you drag your feet across the carpet really fast while you're working on stuff. You don't build up static setting in a chair. Touch a grounded object before you work on electrical stuff.
Ground is ground no matter what you're working on, you case uses the same ground as your microwave. All go to the earth. In 20 years I've never killed anything with ESD and I'm a tinkerer.


If you get shocked frequently by touching things it means something on you or around you is causing it and you should be extra cautious and use the bracelet. If you can't remember the last time you got shocked in your house/work environment just touch the case once before working on stuff.



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The biggest worry is the initial discharge when you move into your work area or touch the first component that has metal. Unless you work in a really dry environment, like to brush you hair constantly while working, or have a mostly polyester wardrobe you should be ok.

I used to work with a guy that had a polyester wardrobe and was constantly combing his hair. He could make you jump three feet in the air if he built up a good static charge. Liked to walk up behind people and touch them on the earlobe while they were soldering. I nearly stabbed him with my soldering iron a couple of times.


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They were sort of reprimanded in private, well, at least until Kyle (Bitwit) made it public. They have been warned now, maybe if there is a next time where the reasoning is the same YouTube will do something substantial about it.

lol they won't. Vox has 5.5 million subscribers and upwards of 30 million views per month. They are absolutely raking in money for YouTube. If there is a next time, YouTube will just sweep it under the rug and tell the victims to deal with it themselves. Just look at all of the huge controversial YouTubers, a few of them "promote" racism (actually just be edgy and casually use racism ironically) and one of them even uploaded a video of a dead body. All YouTube did about that was tell them to not do it again and moved on.

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I agree.

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lol they won't. Vox has 5.5 million subscribers and upwards of 30 million views per month. They are absolutely raking in money for YouTube. If there is a next time, YouTube will just sweep it under the rug and tell the victims to deal with it themselves. Just look at all of the huge controversial YouTubers, a few of them "promote" racism (actually just be edgy and casually use racism ironically) and one of them even uploaded a video of a dead body. All YouTube did about that was tell them to not do it again and moved on.
To me this is the problem with YouTube. It falls prey to the "tabloid" syndrome and it impacts the common journalistic style. People who create media there have an incentive to be rude, sensationalist, controversial, overtly sexual, even racist. That's what gets views.

They pander to the lowest common denominator of human behavior and many have little journalistic integrity. If they are big enough and have enough viewers they are immune to censor and as it seems even public outcry.

I'm no fan of the verge either but this was and interesting story about PewDiePie who is/was arguably the biggest celeb on YouTube with more viewers than some news programs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ggest-creator/

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