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post #11 of 66 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 07:12 AM
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Not sure how anyone survives selling on either amazon or newegg for that matter
With all the added fee's and policy stuff you'd go broke in just shipping fee's
Only true winner is the shipping company usually and even they get nibbled down to a nub dealing with amazon anyway

But there's always prime right watch b-c... rated old movies for a yearly fee for free shipping
There is always the fraud method. Making fake knock-offs and passing it off as the quality name brand product.

There is also the super cheap junk with paid reviews being sold for way more than it should be.


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Amazon Prime also includes Twitch Prime and Amazon Music, and they also make some original shows. It's a little better value than what you're making it out to be.

I pay €35 a year for all of it. I think it's a pretty good deal.
Prime includes a cut down version of amazon music.

Around here amazon prime is $120 a year or $13.00 a month.

Surprised it's so much cheaper in Europe. I'm guessing they're still working on breaking ground in your area.

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There is always the fraud method. Making fake knock-offs and passing it off as the quality name brand product.

There is also the super cheap junk with paid reviews being sold for way more than it should be.
To make money you pretty much have to do wholesale.

What you do is find a product that some manufacturer makes. Have them custom make the item for you. You change some minor things like color and then include your branding on it. Now you can sell said item as the only seller and compete with yourself. Build up a good brand name and expand into other products.

For instance, I bought a gpu brace. There were many options all the same general design. I paid an extra dollar or two for the one I got because it looked a little nicer and I liked the logo. I now notice other products with the same brand name and am more inclined to go with them over competition.

This is the basic idea anyway. Nothing is ever so simple but from what I've gathered that's more or less where you want to be when doing fba.

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Does this mean FBA arbitrage is dead?
I certainly hope so! It's a despicable practice that should be outlawed along with pure speculation (where product is bought with the intent of later reselling at a higher price without adding any actual value).

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Sounds like they just switched to a drop ship model of business. It can actually beneficial for both suppliers and Amazon. Oftentimes if a buyer (amazon) buys to much of a good and they have their own funds tied up in the inventory, they can't buy into new product in a fiscally responsible manner. This leads to negotiations with their suppliers to decrease costs, fund markdowns, or take all of the product back. In those situations, the supplier usually gets stuck with a large amount of poor quality goods that they have to either find someone else to sell to or write it off.
I don't have an issue with the drop ship model as long as the vendor discloses the product will be dropped shipped from another vendor, something Amazon has been upfront about (pretty much the only good thing I can say about Amazon).

One good thing that may come out of Amazon's alleged move is it would put an end to the Amazon Fulfilled vendors who advertise on Fleabay without disclosing that the product will be filled and shipped by Amazon.

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Didn't newegg.com do something similar?
I do not believe that Newegg ever warehoused and shipped any products for other vendors. All Newegg's marketplace vendors do their own filling and shipping of orders.

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Prime includes a cut down version of amazon music.

Around here amazon prime is $120 a year or $13.00 a month.

Surprised it's so much cheaper in Europe. I'm guessing they're still working on breaking ground in your area.
Ouch!

Well, if the justification for the much higher price in the US is the fact that they've saturated a more satisfactory portion of the target demographic, I suppose the argument for Prime being bad value defeats itself.

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I don't really use Amazon too often because their website is complete garbage. For something that should take a minute to find it takes twice as long. And if I type it in their search it isn't found. So I end up using a search engine like Google to find stuff on Amazon. They probably do it so you buy junk you don't need. But I rather just buy what I came for. And b&h and Newegg make that easier for me. But hopefully them removing suppliers will result in less fakes.

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I don't really use Amazon too often because their website is complete garbage. For something that should take a minute to find it takes twice as long. And if I type it in their search it isn't found. So I end up using a search engine like Google to find stuff on Amazon. They probably do it so you buy junk you don't need. But I rather just buy what I came for. And b&h and Newegg make that easier for me. But hopefully them removing suppliers will result in less fakes.
There has been a trend for retail websites to have their fuzzy searches (searches that include hits that are close to the original search term instead of only exact matches) become "fuzzier". My guess is it is either to give a customer a better chance of finding what they are looking for (the original purpose of fuzzy searches), to present more choices to a customer in hopes the customer will also buy one, even if it is not what the customer was looking for, or both.

Curiously, I recently dinged B&H when they asked if I found what I was looking for because their search engine was "too fuzzy" and gave me results that were not even remotely related to what I was looking for. To their credit, I received a response from them, sadly from an idiot who couldn't grasp the obvious although after I responded to the idiot about not answering my actual question, I got a response from someone else who seemed to understand the issue and has forwarded it to their web team. Even if I never hear from them again, that's still a better response than what I usually get (nothing).

Of course there are the sites that have search engines that will come up with hits for any product that has one of the search words anywhere in the product descriptions simply because their web designers were lazy idiots (mutter, mutter, mumble, mumble). Frys.com is an excellent example of that and is one reason I'm now boycotting their online sales (the other is the horrible incompetence they showed in a recent purchase and the horrible customer service I received over it until I filed a BBB complaint).

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This won’t go well for Amazon.

“Ships From And Sold By Amazon” is a key phrase that a lot of people look for.

There are a select few products I’ll get from third parties, but I’m also much more likely to look for a competing distributer that offers real warranty service as well.
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Please do NOT start anything political as this is not the place for it, but it seems kind of fishy that this happens nearly on the day of Elizabeth Warren's big rant about how if she were to be elected President she'd go after Amazon (and pretty much every other large "tech company", but Amazon was the name she mentioned most) to bust them up into smaller companies. A move like this would have had to have been planned well ahead of time...but still...

Could be a move to take heat of themselves since others have pointed torches and pitchforks at them. A move that will likely increase their bottom line as well...and the only ones really feeling any pain will probably be the end consumers. Though I am sure some producers of goods will not do well with this business model either.

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That is going to hurt where I live.
Amazon has been shipping a lot of stuff locally through amazon fulfilment, because many suppliers did not **** internationally, so if its delivered through amazon, it was easier to get a lot of things.
If they drop that, and most likely many suppliers will not ship internationally, this is going to hurt locally quite a bit, as locally prices are either very high (can go from 20% to 200% over amazing prices including shipping and taxes), or just complete lack of availability.


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I don't do enough business with amazon to justify prime no matter what other stuff amazon includes.

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