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he replies, "i think not." and disappears.
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Science has long way to go and I will always remain its avid fan. I never thought that black holes have halo and that what I've seen in text books are not actual photos. The image looks really amazing and scary at the same time!
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I mean, when the man who sees clockwork elves and inter-dimensional demonic child molesters without drugs tells you the earth is round, you stop questioning it.
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If the universe is over 13.8 billion years old made up of things with quantifiable "mass", then how can something such as a black hole that has zero volume, with "infinite" density and gravity that is eternal exist in that same finite universe ?
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If the universe is over 13.8 billion years old made up of things with quantifiable "mass", then how can something such as a black hole that has zero volume, with "infinite" density and gravity that is eternal exist in that same finite universe ?
Math.

Nikola Tesla - “Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.”

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Quote: Originally Posted by NewType88 View Post
If the universe is over 13.8 billion years old made up of things with quantifiable "mass", then how can something such as a black hole that has zero volume, with "infinite" density and gravity that is eternal exist in that same finite universe ?
The actual object has a volume and is a physical object with mass. The actual object is much smaller than the black sphere you are seeing. That is only the event horizon. You are assuming the universe is finite. Which it may be, but you may actually be able to go in 1 direction and never stop because of the shape.

I don't understand what you mean by "gravity that is external".

These objects exist.

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Math.

Nikola Tesla - “Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.”
OK Mr. Tesla, what sort of subatomic experiment involving up-quarks do you have for us today? Remember, these particles we are looking for only exist in the conditions 10 million years after the Big Bang, so you're going to need to fit an accelerator in your apartment.

The math has been worked on for a long time now. We now have instruments capable of proving a lot of these concepts. Gravitational waves come to mind.

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actually, this is clearly a fake image as well, just like all earth images, cuz multiple telescopes were used to form an inter dimensional space alien composite image.

also, this ping pong in a cup of water on my desk proves everything!

its funny, these statements always remind me of the "anti conformist" kids in school, they all ran around parroting the same nonsense.

"err mrr grrrd, you silly not wise folks that think you're wise, you'll never be as wise as me! I got a degree in flat earth on youtube from folks that couldn't even graduate from high school! I R WOKER THAN U!"

your existence is still just a theory too the "fact" we're "here" does nothing to prove we exist.
He doesn't understand that in science, nothing is higher than theory. Theories are supported by facts, which are proven through experiments which are devised from an initial hypothesis.

I'd like someone to tell these people gravity is "just a theory!" while kicking their dumb asses off the planet.

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Quote: Originally Posted by MasterBillyQuizBoy View Post
The actual object has a volume and is a physical object with mass. The actual object is much smaller than the black sphere you are seeing. That is only the event horizon. You are assuming the universe is finite. Which it may be, but you may actually be able to go in 1 direction and never stop because of the shape.

I don't understand what you mean by "gravity that is external".

These objects exist.
I am not questioning whether the object in the photo exists - it does. I mistakenly used eternal interchangeably for infinity.

I'm referring to stars original mass that is quantifiable pre- black hole…..then a finite mass collapses and creates infinite density, infinite gravity within a volume that is infinitely small.


According to the big bang theory the universe is finite. Black hole theory presumably lives within this big bang universe. So if the universe itself is finite, and the stars are finite, while functioning according the laws of physics… all am asking is how can something exist within a finite universe that creates "infinite" gravity, density and size ? In order to get the characteristics of a black hole mathematically you have to divide by zero…..now if the definition of infinite is - "limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate.", then using science is impossible outside of simulations based on these theoretical mathematical assumptions. Because there is an never will be a way to test these concepts….however we can observe our universe and this is where it gets interesting….


"ALMA has revealed the telltale signs of eleven low-mass stars forming perilously close -- within three light-years -- to the Milky Way's supermassive black hole, known to astronomers as Sagittarius A* (Sgr A*). At this distance, tidal forces driven by the supermassive black hole should be energetic enough to rip apart clouds of dust and gas before they can form stars."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1128123259.htm


Also, a gas cloud "G2" came within 36 light MINUTES of the black hole mentioned above and survived….
Astronomers watched in fascination as an object called G2 appeared to edge closer to our Milky Way’s central black hole. But G2 survived!

https://earthsky.org/space/how-g2-su...lky-ways-heart

As you know, one of the test of a sound theory is how accurately can it make predictions…there are many examples like the ones above, of observations that are unexpected given what the current paradigm of cosmology expects to find…


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Quote: Originally Posted by NewType88 View Post
If the universe is over 13.8 billion years old made up of things with quantifiable "mass", then how can something such as a black hole that has zero volume, with "infinite" density and gravity that is eternal exist in that same finite universe ?
This is based on General Relativity, which we already know is not completely correct in all regimes. The center of a black hole is probably one of these regimes. Don't get stuck on the infinity, it probably is not real. We have several theories for what it actually is and a true singularity is not one of them, when your equations return infinity you are probably missing something.

I like the idea that is is simply getting smaller and smaller faster and faster, forever, but it never reaches a true zero size before infinite time. Not that I think it is the most likely but it is so simple and yet outside human understanding. This is not the only theory that does not expect a singularity.

I don't think the universe is finite either, of course we cannot know for sure, but we do know it is a lot bigger than the observable universe.
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