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They should be giving users the option to opt out of this.
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I simply am a complete nobody and am easily lost in the massive mountain of data these companies have collected over the years, as are 99.9% of all the other people who have had their data collected after all.
You might not be interesting to the thing upstairs but marketers are working very hard to make sure nobody is a nobody.

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This is a dangerously naive assumption.
That sentence didn't contain an assumption.

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I'm not gonna target this to anyone in particular but the "negative effects" of all the data collection is that you're going to be perpetually in the poor house, as are most Americans. See the term "surveillance capitalism" that has emerged recently... That's the end goal, there's no secret 007 like "SPECTRE" organization sitting around a round table plotting against everyone, nope it's a lot simpler than that; a bunch of marketers and big corporations bent on selling you the most crap you don't need and getting you on the subscription bandwagon, mining the most money out of you as possible. The best way to do that is to get to know you more intimately second to maybe your wife your girlfriend.

Amazon is in the business of selling you stuff, Google sells ads that sell you stuff, Microsoft and Apple are changing their business model to match those two. That right there is 90% of the internet or for most average people like 99% of the internet.

It's a lot like credit cards, "everyone" thinks they are in the lead, they all think they are that 1%'er actually making money off the CC companies and their rewards programs. Or like the casino, everyone thinks they are that one guy who beat the house forgetting the other twenty times they lost or that they won now and they're hooked on the game and they'll be back plenty more in the future to loose big.

You play the Google/Amazon/Microsoft/Apple game long enough your odds of loosing become an almost certainty. Somewhere there is some crap you bought that you would not have but they pushed the right little emotional cues and buttons on you to make it happen because they had all the data to do it.

Giving up Google doesn't mean giving up modern conveniences. My Linux FTP server, mail server, desktop, PBX box and de-Googled custom rom Android phone with GNU Linux running emulated on to say otherwise. I have all the modern conveniences without Google at all.

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Yes, if you are a zombie living within the established globalist matrix you have nothing to worry about, we get it. In Fahrenheit 451 and in Equilibrium, you'd be the one taking the happy pills and assimilating into the hive mind. Congrats.
Come back to reality bud.

This debate happens every few months on OCN. People with basically conspiracy theory level of thinking on the matter trying to speculatively come up with reasons why anonymous data collection is going to someday bring down the modern world, and a bunch of people who don't care much about it, seeing it as a non issue because it has no real impact on any of our lives.

I'm definitely the latter. Wake me up when the data monster actually come to get us. Until then you all just sound completely nuts.

If you said "I don't like the idea of my data being collected and I wish the culture around this issue hadn't gotten so comfortable with data collection" that would be a perfectly reasonable statement but most outspoken people really just have that feeling and then use it to start coming up with crazier and crazier theories as to why its so bad.

I'm not a fan of data collection, but it's not the monster lurking around the corner either. It's benign.

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Come back to reality bud.

This debate happens every few months on OCN. People with basically conspiracy theory level of thinking on the matter trying to speculatively come up with reasons why anonymous data collection is going to someday bring down the modern world, and a bunch of people who don't care much about it, seeing it as a non issue because it has no real impact on any of our lives.

I'm definitely the latter. Wake me up when the data monster actually come to get us. Until then you all just sound completely nuts.

If you said "I don't like the idea of my dats being collected and I wish the culture around this issue hadn't gotten so comfortable with data collection" that would be a perfectly reasonable statement but most outspoken people really just have that feeling ans then use it to start coming up with crazier and crazier theories as to why its so bad.

I'm not a fan of data collection, but it's not the monster lurking around the corner either. It's benign.
You're right, no one has ever been rounded up for various reasons in the history of the world. Now go back to taking selfies on your bubble head cell phone and post away, or better yet ask Alexa to post them for you on Facebook, Instagram etc...

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You're right, no one has ever been rounded up for various reasons in the history of the world. Now go back to taking selfies on your bubble head cell phone and post away, or better yet ask Alexa to post them for you on Facebook, Instagram etc...
So you think Data collection is going to make things easier for a future Hitler type figure when there is another Holocaust?

Again, not a fan, but also I'm not a crazy person so I don't get all up in arms about Hitler rounding up the Jews based on their metadata either.

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Hitler was one of many rogue governments throughout history that have committed atrocities against their own people and what possible aids assisted well data. You want to volunteer more data?

Let's say you are overheard saying you hate cats. You can substitute the word cat with whatever you want. Government decides they are tired of the hate against cats and with the data they have collected decide they will impose fines and with the more severe cases round up the people for prosecution since they had already imposed laws on this issue and they want to set an example. By having a stupid listening device in your home well... Again, you're overheard saying you love the color blue. Substitute blue with whatever word. You are overheard identifying as "insert a word", the climate against that specific identifier had shifted and all of a sudden the government is on a crusade.

Also do you think the Chinese people still want these devices in their homes now that the Chinese government has imposed a "social credit system" where exemplary zombie behaviour is rewarded and anything remotely outside a hive mind is punished. A system that may be coming to Amerika sooner then later. If that system was imposed here would you still want Alexa listening in on your conversation where every word could be scrutinized and possibly misconstrued no matter how innocent?

Wake-up! The less people know anything about you the better.

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That sentence didn't contain an assumption.
Now you sound like an exemplar for the Dunning-Kruger effect. If you think the only way personal information about someone can be used against them is in a legal venue, that's flatly naive.

Stalking, harassment, extortion, blackmail, burglary, etc and so forth are real forms of attack that are facilitated by knowledge of the target/victim. It doesn't matter where that knowledge comes from, just who ends up with it and what they choose to do to with it. Maybe you don't think you have any enemies. Maybe you don't think you have anything anyone would find worth taking. Maybe you simply think yourself invulnerable. I don't know you, or who you are, but I do know that there is no one on this planet that privacy does not benefit.

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So you think Data collection is going to make things easier for a future Hitler type figure when there is another Holocaust?

Again, not a fan, but also I'm not a crazy person so I don't get all up in arms about Hitler rounding up the Jews based on their metadata either.
Probably not a pressing issue for most people here, but one hardly needs to be crazy to be concerned about more extreme scenarios like this. People being profiled and persecuted has been, is currently, and likely always be, a risk. Plenty of contemporary Hitler-like figures out there now.

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