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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 04-25-2019, 06:22 PM
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yeah.... that pretty much sums it up.

all of it, specially post 3 & 4.

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If you were important enough to be the target of a hack like this, I'd be willing to bet you are also important enough to have access to two doctors.

at the same time.
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True, if you are in the vicinity of another doctor, who is accepting new patients, and in your insurance network, and doesn't require a referral, etc.

I'm not saying it's time for "EVERYBODY PANIC!!!". It's just something that needs to be watched, and if possible, patched.
exactly just that.

and this stuff of another doctor . . first thing they'll do is look at the "doctored" x-rays. w/o any apparent discrepancies- which a radiologist would see first - their diagnosis would be just as wrong as the first. if you think it would be different, you haven't spent much time in a doctor's office nor have half your family in the medical field.

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This is why medical equipment should be airgapped. There was someone a while back who posted here that they were hacked while they were in a hospital, by someone salty over a video game. Luckily the nurse noticed it and stopped the machine before it killed him.



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Simple solution, just have two step verification like with an online bank or email logon security. In the case of the hospital where the xray is done the first step is the logon to the hospital system, and the second is the code from a SMS text sent to a smart device like a cell phone. I'm just joking, didn't mean to startle anyone.

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Whether it's tampering with x-ray's to give a fake cancer diagnosis, swatting, or whatever new trolling fad is around the corner judges need to be ruthless when sentencing these pricks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.72c26c232291

Honestly that sentence is a bit light considering someone died. 10 to 15 years would make sense if just attempting one of these "ultimate trolls", 25 to life if it works in any capacity.
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These scanners should all have some kind of U2F security layer tbh. Have legitimate medical staff plug in their dongle when they're taking X-rays, and remove it afterwards. With an alarm if the machine has been idle for a few minutes with a dongle still plugged in, so as to prevent bad computer hygiene.
Would seriously hamper hackers ability to do this kind of stuff, unless someone's the subject of a targeted attack in which case attackers might just resort to any means necessary to reach their goal.

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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
If you were important enough to be the target of a hack like this, I'd be willing to bet you are also important enough to have access to two doctors.
Not sure how this exactly works but this is kinda creepy if any of the "Big Pharma Conspiracy" has any speck of truth where medical companies start making deals with hackers then spreading misdiagnosis in order to sell more drugs.
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Just unplug the damn internet connection already. Why does a stupid xray need networking. I know I know the western modern all connected hospitals and what not but guess what it works fine elsewhere where doctors still use hard copies and paper instead of having fantasy tablets and whole hospital turned into a video game like in Grey's anatomy.
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Just unplug the damn internet connection already. Why does a stupid xray need networking. I know I know the western modern all connected hospitals and what not but guess what it works fine elsewhere where doctors still use hard copies and paper instead of having fantasy tablets and whole hospital turned into a video game like in Grey's anatomy.
Here is the problem with that. A.I. can spot cancer and other stuff on an X-ray sooner and more accurately than most doctors already. It will do nothing but improve over the next few years. But in order to do that it's gotta be connected to the primary A.I. network.


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Sounds like the origin story for a new much more expensive way of taking "secure" x-rays. Or at minimum, new fees for maintaining the security of your x-rays.
this kind of security is something they should have to uphold anyway really

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