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post #11 of 37 (permalink) Old 05-04-2019, 02:12 PM
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So this is a grab for more control and seems pretty straightforward. China has done something similar, although China is more aggressive when it comes to manipulating what their citizens are allowed to see & say online.

Is Russia expected to heavily censor content as well?

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We do it different here in the West. Instead of actually stonewalling people and blocking information the traditional way like they do in China we just keep them suspended in a loop of bullcrap garbage information. Everything from click bait BS articles, instagram, pop culture, social media, the royals, pro sports and ultra targeted metadata advertising to keep people on the payday treadmill of buying stupid stuff to impress their stupid stuff wanting friends, one upping everyone look at me envying culture.

Same result different method. In China, Russia and other dictatorship countries they actively block information to keep the masses subdued, here the giants of Google/Amazon/Facebook/Microsoft/Apple just distract you into submission.
Just adding to your statement - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

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here the giants of Google/Amazon/Facebook/Microsoft/Apple just distract you into submission.
Actually, Google actively censors a lot of results on their search engine. I've had to use DDG more than a few times to get more relevant returns, if not any at all.

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Australia isn't too far away from doing this, the government actively censors websites (VPN's can get around this), they can now access ISP's for any information on their users, and ASIO now has the legal power to access, copy, modify and delete 'any' file in 'any network' attached to the internet here in Australia, the sort of thing the CIA has wet-dreams about, and 0.001% of the population knew about this when our parliament voted it through, it certainly wasn't something made known to the public.

Welcome to George Orwells 1984 distopia everybody, it's already our day-to-day lives.
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Actually, Google actively censors a lot of results on their search engine. I've had to use DDG more than a few times to get more relevant returns, if not any at all.
I'm aware that they do that, but most importantly unless you've taken steps to truly "randomize" yourself in the way that Google sees you as a completely new ID (user/hardware/ip/whatever) every time you hit it's search engine you will simply get trapped in the "filter bubble" where your search results will be based on previous content in some way and if it can be tied back down to some form of a unique identifier you will be kept in that bubble. Whether you agree with the concept or not, the problem is that you don't truly get "natural" search results.

I think I've finally got as close as possible to "natural" search results as you can get without running say Tor Browser (which Google actively blocks because you are too random which is unique in itself). The right combo of extensions, mods to FF, ipv6 VPN/SOCKS proxy so you have a clean/new IP that's not from a known pool of VPN's and Google search will hit me with a few Captcha's every single time (which shows that they don't know me) but won't bar me either like they do with Tor Browser.

I've repeatedly tested this, same search term/website with different ip's, machine configs in a VM, etc and I will get the same result so non-targeted filter bubble "natural" search results.

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No country should depend so much on other when it comes to internet. It is sad that so much has been centralized and is controlled by very few. True it's not great that some governments may misuse it, but lets face it, they already all do especially Spy5. It's no wonder other governments feel the need to be able to have a functioning internet without relying on other countries. Wasn't there a scheduled test already where they cut the whole country out, routing wise? Also the global routing mishaps of late are a cause of concern, countries were "mistakenly" disconnected from internet.
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Wonder if Overclock is on their radar or maybe it already is and they're planning to put it on their ban list.

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Everything from click bait BS articles, instagram, pop culture, social media, the royals, pro sports and ultra targeted metadata advertising to keep people on the payday treadmill of buying stupid stuff to impress their stupid stuff wanting friends, one upping everyone look at me envying culture.
Like buying a Titan RTX for gaming (to basically show off/brag.) Which I'm guilty of, didn't get one for business computing.

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The firewall is spreading.
Authoritarians everywhere are envious of China's success.
Europe doing the same thing under the guise of "copyright."
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fight the authoritarians anywhere you find them, even if they point in the direction you favor. centralization of command and control is not unique to one ideology.

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U.S. invented the Internet. Clinton made it public. Now, all governments are afraid of it; political power draining. Now, 25+ years later you have the Cloud Act.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
Make of it as you like
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Many tech companies are no longer based or headquartered in the U.S. which would seem to bypass the CLOUD legislation entirely.

Also I thought Al Gore created the tubes that make the internets go?


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