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Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
I'm in Europe. I'm pretty sure latency-sensitive connections inside this continent do NOT go through the US, ever. A simple traceroute is enough to confirm this.
Most connections aren't latency-sensitive, though.
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Most connections aren't latency-sensitive, though.
Ok, but those are not the ones we've been contemplating.

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Ok, but those are not the ones we've been contemplating.
But they are the primary market for these satellites. It isn't aimed at improving gigabit FTTH, it's about providing internet service literally anywhere on the planet. You don't care if your emails are 10% slower than in a city if the alternative is not receiving them at all.

As far as latency goes, yes, short-range dedicated connections to the sorts of datacenters that powerusers like us care about likely aren't going to be replaced by satellites. It's STILL cheaper to make those connections in the ground (or undersea) rather than in space. It's why Facebook is building their own brand new personal cross-Atlantic optical cable, to reduce latency between its NA and EU datacenters so that updates to your Facebook page are spread globally within ever-fewer microseconds (Why, I'm still not sure, but hey, it's their couple hundred million bucks to spend, I guess).

It's still important to understand the physical layers of our networks though, which is why I'm here commenting at all. Lots of discussion about latency with little engineering basis, and some gross oversimplifications of the colossally complex and inefficient beast that is the modern telecom network.
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does this mean we'll finally have definitive proof of a roundish globe shaped flat earth?

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But they are the primary market for these satellites. It isn't aimed at improving gigabit FTTH, it's about providing internet service literally anywhere on the planet. You don't care if your emails are 10% slower than in a city if the alternative is not receiving them at all.

As far as latency goes, yes, short-range dedicated connections to the sorts of datacenters that powerusers like us care about likely aren't going to be replaced by satellites. It's STILL cheaper to make those connections in the ground (or undersea) rather than in space. It's why Facebook is building their own brand new personal cross-Atlantic optical cable, to reduce latency between its NA and EU datacenters so that updates to your Facebook page are spread globally within ever-fewer microseconds (Why, I'm still not sure, but hey, it's their couple hundred million bucks to spend, I guess).

It's still important to understand the physical layers of our networks though, which is why I'm here commenting at all. Lots of discussion about latency with little engineering basis, and some gross oversimplifications of the colossally complex and inefficient beast that is the modern telecom network.
This is my second comment on this thread, btw: "I don't think the point of this is to replace latency sensitive, high-bandwidth communications. For everything else, this will be fantastic."

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Then it would seem we've fallen victim to a common problem on forums, which is the tendency to view supporting viewpoints emphasizing different aspects of the discussion as opposing.
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Then it would seem we've fallen victim to a common problem on forums, which is the tendency to view supporting viewpoints emphasizing different aspects of the discussion as opposing.
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