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Does this mean that Intel is now the underdog?

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That's NOT what she said.
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If she did not with a straight face

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Does this mean that Intel is now the underdog?
In 2020 and 2021, most certainly.

TSMC's 7nm+ offers good performance gains over 7nm.

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wait, you didn't hear? all the nanometers are the same, it just matters who's the got the smallest one!
see I was told bigger is better so I don't know what your on about.

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Does this mean that Intel is now the underdog?
You know in animes when you get to the point where the bbeg is still in power and control, but you can clearly see his strength has a weakness and the plucky band of adventurers are on the path to victory? That's Intel and AMD right now.

Note: I have an Intel, I don't think they're bad guys, just the first comparison that came to mind.

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Hold up, you forgot the 15% IPC increase for AMD took them 2 years from 2017 to 2019. They didnt increase IPC every year. Leading me to believe the next 15% jump for Ryzen is in 2021, and will be head to head with Intel "7nm" node.
Well, Zen+ was just a minor tweak of Zen, not a full architecture improvement.

Zen 2 is a new architecture, and Zen 3 will be a new architecture.

Of course not a literally brand new architecture starting from nothing like from Bulldozer to Zen, but you know what I mean.

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Another supposed tech writer not knowing Intel's 7nm =/= TSMC's 7nm.
Well, of course the number of nanometres they decide to put in the name of a process doesn't really tell you enough about it.

Part of the issue is not just that Intel has been having trouble getting their 10nm process to work, but there's also the matter of how much performance it'll actually bring them when they do.

A while back, Intel showed a graph that stated their first generation 10nm process would actually have lower performance than their own 14nm++ process.

Well, their 14nm++ process is pretty refined by now.


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Competing?... well... sure!

Bottom line: all this is healthy competition from which we, the consumers, stand to benefit a lot... keep up the good work guys!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Buris View Post
In 2020 and 2021, most certainly.

TSMC's 7nm+ offers good performance gains over 7nm.
Well looking at their laptop chips intel doesn't look like the underdog. Moreover, intel is like 10 times as large as AMD in every relevant metric.

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Just wanted to say that this made me laugh ahaha

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