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[Youtube] JoergSpave: Youtube: The Clock is Ticking

Moderators: I was unsure where to place this. I found it very interesting, so I just took my bests guess and put it in the Tech/Science section. Apologies if wrong.


JoergSprave of the SlingShot Channel on Youtube (One of my absolute favorite channels) has enlisted the help of IG Metall in a joint venture to force YouTube to be fair to it's content creators. It's quite an interesting watch. Curious to see where this goes.

IG Metall is the dominant metalworkers' union in Germany, making it the country's largest union as well as Europe’s largest industrial union. Analysts of German labor relations consider it a major trend-setter in national bargaining.

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Getting YouTube to be fair... never gonna happen, they will always protect and help the big channels while screwing over the little ones. Even when rules change you can see the little channels getting screwed, like when they added the demonetisation for swearing, didn't really effect the big channels but the little ones lost most of the add money which is why everyone relies on Pateron now (even though Pateron is a mess with it's rules and terms and conditions).


I'll be interested to see if anything does actually happen but I doubt it...

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German Steel workers will be the ones to fix YouTube? It seems kind of strange to me for some reason.


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German Steel workers will be the ones to fix YouTube? It seems kind of strange to me for some reason.
If you had cared to watch the video, you'd know IG Metall is no longer simply a steel workers union.

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If you had cared to watch the video, you'd know IG Metall is no longer simply a steel workers union.
I did watch the video before making a comment on it thank-you very much and they are a steel workers union - "We bring one hundred and twenty five years experience", that's one hundred and twenty five years experience as a steel workers union with less than five of those years in their recent "crowd worker" projects - Never forget your roots


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I did watch the video before making a comment on it thank-you very much and they are a steel workers union - "We bring one hundred and twenty five years experience", that's one hundred and twenty five years experience as a steel workers union with less than five of those years in their recent "crowd worker" projects - Never forget your roots
Considering the concerns they raised and the plan they delineated, they seem to know what they're doing.

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Good. Content creators have been getting mistreated for a while. I support unions as they exist to protect workers, not multibillion dollar corporations. Thank you for posting.

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I laugh at the people trying to "fix" Youtube. Youtube is it's own thing, a private company and they can do what they want. Youtube crapping on content creators and demonitization is actually only a symptom of a much larger problem.

Nobody is gonna fix Youtube, it's their own turf and they will do what they want. They don't want political videos, they don't want well informed commentary.

Something like 90% of their revenue comes from the 1000 or so videos from around 1000 or so channels that rotate on the trending feed. This is basically stupid reaction videos like "teens react to", makeup tutorials, stupid uninformative unboxing videos like iJustine/Unboxtherapy or really lame unoffensive to anybody comedy.

People need to be looking to other platforms. Things like LBRY are really promising as well as very smooth, slick and intuitive to use even for non tech people. The central model of classic streaming sites lends itself to what happened with Youtube. Youtube doesn't want to be "fixed", they want to become a click bait TV channel type service, not somewhere to watch actual unbiased product reviews or political commentary. I mean look at anything, all the channels that do unbiased product reviews who aren't bought out by whatever company is top dog of their niche get demonetized while the yes men that agree that everything is awesome make the front page e.g. Unboxtherapy.

Any other platform that follows the same central hosting model will inevitably fall victim to the same thing. Then you have countries around the world like the UK that are trying to censor social media, etc. We need to be moving away from centralized social media platforms instead of trying to "change/fix" them. They don't want fixing, Facebook/Twitter isn't actually going to change no matter whatever #boycott or news headline. People don't wanna hear it but the only fix is abandoning the platform, sucking it up and taking a loss on the new platforms until the internet changes and moves towards them.

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