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Apparently you can't securely erase SSDs the way you can with mechanical drives.

Isn't RMAing SSDs a security/privacy risk?

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No because intel isn't going to steal data.....

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Apparently you can't securely erase SSDs the way you can with mechanical drives.

Isn't RMAing SSDs a security/privacy risk?

Peo[ple RMA them because first off, they are useless.
So what if windows loads in 10sec vs 15? So what if firefox loads in 1 sec instead of 2? Their price/GB is 2$ O_o. They really arent needed, HDD's are better IMO because they are tried and true and have no degradation (is that a word) over time and you always get what you pay for.
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Shhh not all drug dealers or pedophile knows that. If they leave revealing evidence, it'd make it easier for the cops to bust them.

On Hack-A-Day forum about recent dumping of a ROM chip used in Commodore 1520 plotter and the matter of copyright law:
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Apparently you can't securely erase SSDs the way you can with mechanical drives.

Isn't RMAing SSDs a security/privacy risk?


You can with the Intel 320: http://communities.intel.com/thread/20537?tstart=0

However, the erase is good enough for all intent and purposes for RMA.

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Peo[ple RMA them because first off, they are useless.
So what if windows loads in 10sec vs 15? So what if firefox loads in 1 sec instead of 2? Their price/GB is 2$ O_o. They really arent needed, HDD's are better IMO because they are tried and true and have no degradation (is that a word) over time and you always get what you pay for.
Tell that to a DBA or developer.

BTW, why do you have 4GB of RAM? Next time get a 512MB DIMM and create 100GB paging file. RAM price is $19 per GB!!! So what if you have to wait 15s for Firefox to load?

To answer most of your questions: (1) a fridge cannot cool a PC (2) 64-bit OS for over 3.4GB (3) If a PCIe card fits, it should work (4) Resolution, not screen size (5) Report, not respond to Spam (6) Single-Rail/Non-Modular PSUs are not always better than Multi-Rail/Modular (7) Sequential does not matter as much as random for OS drives (8) Requirements come before hardware for servers

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No because intel isn't going to steal data.....

That's all speculation.

Privacy issues are still privacy issues.

Tax information, resumes, health information, sensitive company files, if some or all these are on someone's SSD, why would they RMA them if you supposedly can't securely erase them?

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I will definitely stand up for my right to privacy but seriously, do you think Intel/Corsair/OCZ/etc etc really cares about your data?
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Peo[ple RMA them because first off, they are useless.
So what if windows loads in 10sec vs 15? So what if firefox loads in 1 sec instead of 2? Their price/GB is 2$ O_o. They really arent needed, HDD's are better IMO because they are tried and true and have no degradation (is that a word) over time and you always get what you pay for.

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You can with the Intel 320: http://communities.intel.com/thread/20537?tstart=0

However, the erase is good enough for all intent and purposes for RMA.



Tell that to a DBA or developer.

BTW, why do you have 4GB of RAM? Next time get a 512MB DIMM and create 100GB paging file.

For buisnesses and speed intensive apps, SSD is the way to go. They have the money for that stuff, but as for me im fine with waiting an extra 3 seconds to save 500000000$ for a 32gb SSD tongue.gif

EDIT- What do you mean about paging file thing? RAM is a nescesitty SSD aint
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For buisnesses and speed intensive apps, SSD is the way to go. They have the money for that stuff, but as for me im fine with waiting an extra 3 seconds to save 500000000$ for a 32gb SSD tongue.gif

Exactly. For. you.

You != everyone.

Why did you get W7 Ultimate? How much extra did you spend for what benefits?


As for OP, SSD can be overwritten and encrypted. If you are worried about security, get an Intel 320.

To answer most of your questions: (1) a fridge cannot cool a PC (2) 64-bit OS for over 3.4GB (3) If a PCIe card fits, it should work (4) Resolution, not screen size (5) Report, not respond to Spam (6) Single-Rail/Non-Modular PSUs are not always better than Multi-Rail/Modular (7) Sequential does not matter as much as random for OS drives (8) Requirements come before hardware for servers

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I will definitely stand up for my right to privacy but seriously, do you think Intel/Corsair/OCZ/etc etc really cares about your data?

That's not the point whether they care or not. A privacy or security risk is still a security risk, right?




On another note, the following software secure erases all kind drives, including SSDs:

http://www.killdisk.com/

I'm not sure if I really believe that. If you can't truly secure erase SSD's, then why does this program claim this? Any of the SSD experts believe their claim?

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