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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-11-2013, 08:27 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm still wary of sandforce controllers, i feel like what ever controller samsung, crucial and plextor use are better. At this point has sandforce gotten better? The only reason i ask is because i want to get a Corsair Force GT because its red but i am hesitant because of the controller otherwise i would get a 840 pro.
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They have certainly come a long way from the initial pains. Having said that I would still buy elsewhere. My Sammy pro, Evo, are great drives, as are my Plextor drives.wink.gif
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Know of any red colored ones?
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SanDisk Ultra Plus is Marvell and red and black. Please don't buy your components based on how they look. You're staring at the warm blue glow of the monitor, not the pretty window in your case. I suppose you could always paint it once you get past the return window.

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Sandforce has improved since their 1200-series days. However, the more recent 2281-based drives only offer at best mid level performance compared to newer Marvell-based drives.

Sandforce still has some major caveats due in part to the compression tricks that the Sandforce controller performs:

Overprovisioning - they require the most amount of overprovisioning (on average)
Poor compressed data performance - they don't handle compressed files as well as Marvell drives
Mediocre steady state performance
Does not play nice with TRIM - Marvell drives benefit from TRIM far more than Sandforce (as in TRIM restores more performance for Marvell drives)

The proof:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6107/corsair-force-series-gs-240gb-review
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/kingston-ssdnow-v300_4.html

Seriously, don't by Sandforce when there are better controllers available.

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What about the Intel 520/530 SSDs?



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What about the Intel 520/530 SSDs?

Intel uses custom firmware that has gone through extensive validation, so they are much better than other Sandforce drives.
Nonetheless, they still suffer from some of Sandforce's fundamental limitations (namely TRIM performance).

Also, you pay a hefty premium for the Intel branding, but, at the same time you also get Intel's reputation for reliability.

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A certain Mr. Sean Webster informed me that Intel actually sources their NAND from Micron, Crucial's parent company. Crucial's and Intel's drives get universally positive reviews, but Crucial is cheaper with a better controller.

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A certain Mr. Sean Webster informed me that Intel actually sources their NAND from Micron, Crucial's parent company. Crucial's and Intel's drives get universally positive reviews, but Crucial is cheaper with a better controller.
Micron and Intel are partners, they both work together: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5603/intel-sells-some-of-its-imft-stake-to-micron

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