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post #131 of 486 (permalink) Old 04-07-2015, 09:29 PM
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You are forgetting the NVMe SM951 SSD is coming out as well... may not be now by Q3 it should all be readily available. By then the SM951, is as future proof as 750. Performance on the client apps and workload will be the main sole factor in considering which is better.

There is also some aesthetic consideration, I like M.2 ssd, especially with TUF latest X99 board, u can even hide the entire SSD under their Thermal armor, no wire cluttering, no PCI-e slot planning headache, no ugly green PCB exposure.


P.S: I hope the NVME SM951 is still using M.2
That's what I was thinking as-well. So nice to have a tiny little M.2 PCI-E 3.0 @ 4x drive which sits flush against your motherboard and is hardly even "there" rather than another big (relatively speaking) PCI-E slot-taking card having to make it's way in along with 1-4 GPUs, a soundcard, and/or any other PCI/PCI-E slot-taking cards.

If the Intel 750 is indeed faster - for 90% of home users/gamers - than the NVMe Samsung SM951, then I really hope they (Intel) release a 750 (or equivalent) M.2 version as the bigger and bulkier PCI/PCI-E slot-taking cards seem like old/dated tech compared to the new, small form-factor M.2 stuff.

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That's what I was thinking as-well. So nice to have a tiny little M.2 PCI-E 3.0 @ 4x drive which sits flush against your motherboard and is hardly even "there" rather than another big (relatively speaking) PCI-E slot-taking card having to make it's way in along with 1-4 GPUs, a soundcard, and/or any other PCI/PCI-E slot-taking cards.

If the Intel 750 is indeed faster - for 90% of home users/gamers - than the NVMe Samsung SM951, then I really hope they (Intel) release a 750 (or equivalent) M.2 version as the bigger and bulkier PCI/PCI-E slot-taking cards seem like old/dated tech compared to the new, small form-factor M.2 stuff.


The latest X99 thermal armor completely conceal the M.2 such that even if u are using a blank board, u wont see the M.2 at all (It is being covered).


The intel 750 wont be available for M.2 due to the power requirement of the NAND controller they use, this is why they stick to SFF8639 for 2.5" as they require external power connector via SATA to run the drive. The M.2 connector alone don't have the juice for that.


Using such a high power for a hard drive, I wont be surprise it will beat the M.2 SSD which uses much less power. Make sense too. But the fact the low power SM951 can match 750 so close and yet only using AHCI protocol shows that Intel still have alot to work on for their SSD department.

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I saw that and some benchmarks. I just brought a x99 setup so couldn't resist

I've seen your avatar before, I'm sure of it, but can't remember what it's from.


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after i reset bios -sm951 does not show up
it boot to windows normal as im using right now
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i did put setting back i thing for the same or simillar
Bios screen or ideas would help from asus boards
xp941 can see normal and never had a problem- same for p3700
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The AnandTech review of the Intel 750 mentioned it in passing but this HP announcement seems to confirm that a Samsung M.2 NVMe drive (almost certainly a variant of the SM951) is coming out soon: http://www.techpowerup.com/211714/hp-introduces-ws-storage-advancement-mobile-ws-and-professional-displays.html

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The SM951 NVMe versions have been out for a few weeks or longer, you can buy them online from a few places. wink.gif

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The SM951 NVMe versions have been out for a few weeks or longer, you can buy them online from a few places. wink.gif

Oops, you're right, haven't been paying close enough attention to the thread tongue.gif

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So, just to get a clear picture of real world speed, is there a noticeable difference between the PCIE ssds (such as P3700 and SM951) and normal 2.5 in ssds that run off of sata only? Or is the difference only in benchmarks at this time?
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So, just to get a clear picture of real world speed, is there a noticeable difference between the PCIE ssds (such as P3700 and SM951) and normal 2.5 in ssds that run off of sata only? Or is the difference only in benchmarks at this time?


Depends on what your real world workload is. For typical users it is pointless besides e-peen. But if your workload is storage IO dependent then they will help.


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So even if you are doing video rendering, gaming, etc ("heavier" computer tasks) there will not be much difference in performance compared to 2.5 in ssds? Are these better suited for servers then?
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