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post #111 of 134 (permalink) Old 08-08-2019, 04:44 AM
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Is the Kingston A2000 1TB any good? I can get if for €120 shipped, looks like a pretty good deal, but I can find any reviews on it.
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Is the Kingston A2000 1TB any good? I can get if for €120 shipped, looks like a pretty good deal, but I can find any reviews on it.
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The only M.2 slot i have is under the PCI-E slot i have the GPU in so its getting zero air flow and the GPU might be heating it up as well
I did find a PCI-E card with an NVME M.2 slot on it so maybe thats a good idea?
It definitely does heat it up.

You can get those PCIe x4 to M.2 cards fairly cheap, it's just a piece of PCB with connector and a filtering capacitor, there is no magic there. But it will eat your PCIe lanes, which is fine on x99 I guess but not on lower Intel platforms that only have 16 lanes for GPU and nothing more to spare so on those one would have to run 8+4+4 mode.

Or get a small heatsink for it.

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Kingston A2000: SM2263XT/SM2263 or Phison low cost controllers hence the low speeds, they are flexible in what they may use. These are not great and are also used on the 660p/P1 while those may actually be cheaper and offer similar performance.

The E12 drives are around 120 EUR. You only have to look through shops to find them. They are not the best but likely best value and you still get 1GB/s even for long writes. The SM2262EN Adata SX8200 pro HP EX950 etc. may not be bad either although some people did have trouble with some here, reviews for them are OK but they do cost often more than E12 which makes them undesirable in comparison.

There are reviews of SM2263XT drives, they are dramless though, no idea if A2000 is dramless too, dramless is undesirable from a performance perspective.

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Yep always said one of the things that delayed myself from buying m.2's was the additional costs for heatsink plus m.2 were just too much money
Now they are getting better pricing which leaves room for the obvious cooling needs and they are still going to need a fan focused on them lol

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The E12 drives are around 120 EUR. You only have to look through shops to find them. They are not the best but likely best value and you still get 1GB/s even for long writes. The SM2262EN Adata SX8200 pro HP EX950 etc. may not be bad either although some people did have trouble with some here, reviews for them are OK but they do cost often more than E12 which makes them undesirable in comparison.
Ended up finding a Silicon Power P34A80 1TB for about €127 euro shipped from the UK of all places, good thing Brexit keeps getting delayed I guess

That's one of the good ones right?
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Ended up finding a Silicon Power P34A80 1TB for about €127 euro shipped from the UK of all places, good thing Brexit keeps getting delayed I guess

That's one of the good ones right?
Yes, it is.

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It definitely does heat it up.

You can get those PCIe x4 to M.2 cards fairly cheap, it's just a piece of PCB with connector and a filtering capacitor, there is no magic there. But it will eat your PCIe lanes, which is fine on x99 I guess but not on lower Intel platforms that only have 16 lanes for GPU and nothing more to spare so on those one would have to run 8+4+4 mode.

Or get a small heatsink for it.
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Ended up finding a Silicon Power P34A80 1TB for about €127 euro shipped from the UK of all places, good thing Brexit keeps getting delayed I guess

That's one of the good ones right?
I have it and no problems so far. The latest firmware is in OP.

There are endless reviews, only one reported lower speeds or something but I bet they were overheating it. The E12 controller does like a heatsink. Same drives under different brands, same design and all, many reviews, simply search by name of drive + review. Anandtech and Guru3D have a few, and Tom's HW.

Prices and availability varies, I thought I would get it from Amazon but they have their endless no shipping issues with 3rd party sellers so I found it cheaper locally after they had month+ waiting for the Corsair MP510. At one point many of the smaller brands were in stock and somewhat reasonable price, later mostly gone entirely, it changes what drives and at what price you can find where.
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Temps on my Corsair Force MP510 dropped from about 49-51c in idle to only 37c in idle after i moved it over to the PCI-E adaptor so it made one hell of a difference!
Dont think i ever got to say thank you for the help JackCY without this thread i would have bought an overpriced 970 Evo

Edit: this is what i bought never heard of that brand but it was the only thing i could find
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Temps on my Corsair Force MP510 dropped from about 49-51c in idle to only 37c in idle after i moved it over to the PCI-E adaptor so it made one hell of a difference!
Dont think i ever got to say thank you for the help JackCY without this thread i would have bought an overpriced 970 Evo

Edit: this is what i bought never heard of that brand but it was the only thing i could find

This is pointless, I had 1TB MP500 which is INSANELY hot [ i think 59-60C on idle] under my 2080ti, now i have MP510 2TB in same place and its so efficient that during benchmarks it gets to 48C.
With my MP500 I used one of Chinese heatsinks with micro fan build in and it helped to lower by 10 degrees and lowering even more wont speed it up.
Now with MP510 i only use build in Gigabyte heatsink, the one that came for free with the mobo.
BTW, NAND wants heat, it works better when hot, its the controller that needs to be cooled down, if you cool down the NAND way too much it will start degrading, its known fact you can google it.
So all you need to do is keep the controller under its officially rated working temps that it, there is no reason or actual need to actively cool down NVMe drives.
People with water cooling or huge heatsinks with big fans doing the nand disservice
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