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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-15-2019, 06:26 PM - Thread Starter
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Would like recommendations for a purely storage SSD

I'm just looking for an inexpensive, bang-for-buck SSD in the higher size range to use as storage. I've spent a good amount of time over the week poring over options, and it seems like I always end up circling back to the WD Blue series. There are some other brands that seem promising and are on sale, but I've read various complaints about them, which has largely scared me off.

For example, Samsung's 860 QVO can be had at the cheapest of all options right now, but people have quoted that it has "SLC" problems, and that its underlying installation and usage is a bit clunky. Then there's the Intel 660p, which many claim have SLC problems as well. Then the SanDisk 3D, but many have said that their customer service sucks and that their drives can randomly die after a few months. Lastly, the Crucial MX500 seems to be a popular option, but it's always more expensive than the WD Blue where I live, unfortunately.

Is the WD Blue really the only option I have (with which I'd have to wait a bit longer so it drops a bit lower in terms of price; maybe Christmas or something), or are there other great options for purely storage? I've seen a couple of no-name brands on Amazon (e.g. Silicon POwer), but I'm not sure about buying those. Thank you very much.

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Don't buy a QLC drive, they're cheap for a reason.

WD Blue is fine. MX500 is fine. Sandisk is fine. Samsung 850/860s are fine but are generally overpriced, you're paying for their RMA and customer support.

If you're looking for an NVME drive I'd go for the Muskin Pilot. The 1TB has been on sale for ~$100 recently. The 2TB is less of a deal at ~$260 but the 1TB is about 70% as fast in read/write as a Samsung 970 for 1/3 the price.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
Don't buy a QLC drive, they're cheap for a reason.

WD Blue is fine. MX500 is fine. Sandisk is fine. Samsung 850/860s are fine but are generally overpriced, you're paying for their RMA and customer support.

If you're looking for an NVME drive I'd go for the Muskin Pilot. The 1TB has been on sale for ~$100 recently. The 2TB is less of a deal at ~$260 but the 1TB is about 70% as fast in read/write as a Samsung 970 for 1/3 the price.
I'm not particularly looking for NVMe or anything; just whatever's cheap. I do have a vacant M.2 slot though. I will look up the Mushkins then.

In your opinion, should I drop the ball on a SanDisk now (while it's on sale) and just assume it was simply the 1% of buyers who got duds, or is it still probably safer to wait on other brands?

Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
PNY is a solid brand for cheap but good SSDs.
Thanks, I'll check in on PNY as well.

Edit: Checked both brands; they're more expensive than the others, so I guess they're not an option.

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A list of drives with Phison E12 + Toshiba memory chips:

Silicon Power P34A80 1TB, M.2 (SP001TBP34A80M28)
Corsair Force Series MP510 960GB, M.2 (CSSD-F960GBMP510)
Patriot Viper VPN100 NVMe SSD 1TB, M.2 (VPN100-1TBM28H)
TeamGroup PCIe SSD MP34 1TB, M.2 (TM8FP4001T0C101)
PNY XLR8 CS3030 M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB, M.2 (M280CS3030-1TB-RB)
LiteOn MU X1 1TB, M.2 (PP5-GD1024)
Seagate FireCuda 510 SSD 1TB, M.2 (ZP1000GM30011)
Gigabyte Aorus RGB AIC NVMe SSD 1TB, PCIe 3.0 x4 (GP-ASACNE2100TTTDR)
MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro 960GB (not in EU yet, if ever, been on market a while now elsewhere, their only EU distributor's site is dead too)
Sabrent 1TB Rocket (SB-ROCKET-1TB) (barely available and expensive in EU)
Inland Premium (not in EU)

https://www.overclock.net/forum/355-...2-toshiba.html

Silicon Power, PNY, etc. are old brands, not no names
Sure they are not a gigantic corporation as Samsung.

From SATA options it's probably only MX500, WD Blue 3D NAND and it's Sandisk equivalent what ever it's names is I don't remember anymore.

The M.2 NVMe cost almost equal even cheaper than SATA depending on region.

The Mushin Pilot is very regional and has SM2262 controller, not even SM2262EN. But if you can get it cheaper than other then why not, the performance difference is there but you will likely not notice. There are plenty options with these SM2262/EN controllers.
QLC SSDs are not worth your money.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
A list of drives with Phison E12 + Toshiba memory chips:

Silicon Power P34A80 1TB, M.2 (SP001TBP34A80M28)
Corsair Force Series MP510 960GB, M.2 (CSSD-F960GBMP510)
Patriot Viper VPN100 NVMe SSD 1TB, M.2 (VPN100-1TBM28H)
TeamGroup PCIe SSD MP34 1TB, M.2 (TM8FP4001T0C101)
PNY XLR8 CS3030 M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB, M.2 (M280CS3030-1TB-RB)
LiteOn MU X1 1TB, M.2 (PP5-GD1024)
Seagate FireCuda 510 SSD 1TB, M.2 (ZP1000GM30011)
Gigabyte Aorus RGB AIC NVMe SSD 1TB, PCIe 3.0 x4 (GP-ASACNE2100TTTDR)
MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro 960GB (not in EU yet, if ever, been on market a while now elsewhere, their only EU distributor's site is dead too)
Sabrent 1TB Rocket (SB-ROCKET-1TB) (barely available and expensive in EU)
Inland Premium (not in EU)

https://www.overclock.net/forum/355-...2-toshiba.html

Silicon Power, PNY, etc. are old brands, not no names
Sure they are not a gigantic corporation as Samsung.

From SATA options it's probably only MX500, WD Blue 3D NAND and it's Sandisk equivalent what ever it's names is I don't remember anymore.

The M.2 NVMe cost almost equal even cheaper than SATA depending on region.

The Mushin Pilot is very regional and has SM2262 controller, not even SM2262EN. But if you can get it cheaper than other then why not, the performance difference is there but you will likely not notice. There are plenty options with these SM2262/EN controllers.
QLC SSDs are not worth your money.
Hi, you just threw a list of SSDs at me, but I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Is that a list of SSDs that are okay to buy, or a list to avoid?

The Mushkin is outside of my budget for high capacities. They're being sold at a high premium in both USA and CAN. I'm looking for something 2+ TB that's cheap but also reliable.

Perhaps I'll just keep waiting a bit longer to see how the Crucial/WD/SanDisk's prices change. I'll probably end up sticking with the WD after all if it gets cheaper.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ichirou View Post
Hi, you just threw a list of SSDs at me, but I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Is that a list of SSDs that are okay to buy, or a list to avoid?
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I'm guessing you didn't click the link under it, which is a thread with answers to a lot of the questions you are asking here, but is a bit more specific. That list is the new Phison/Toshiba drives which are proving to be incredible bang for the buck performers, and use Toshiba TLC with excellent endurance ratings.

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You get what you pay for. You can buy cheap or you can buy reliability. If you value your data, you do not want to cheap out on storage drives

For people on a tight budget, I recommend the Crucial MX 500. Also, if you want your data to be safe, you must also budget for a couple of backup drives, one for an onsite backup and one for an offsite backup. Those can be HDDs to save money.

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Hi,
Just got a few of these
https://www.amazon.com/XPG-SX8200-Ge...tronics&sr=1-3
Reviews seemed fine regardless of what JackCY states about loosing data on the linked thread none mentioned on amazon plus win-10 runs trim so I doubt the firmware means much whether it's so called "generic" or not

Didn't like any of the ones on his list frankly prices were all over the place if they existed at amazon at all.
1-1tb games 150.us
2-512gb for os x99 & x299 75.us x2
512gb had a slightly lower write than the 970 evo but 1tb had slightly higher read if not the same read and write
SSD's are mostly reads anyway



Still have many 2.5" ssd's mostly samsung 850 pro's 256gb or evo 500gb and a couple 860 pro's that were dirt cheap but only for os's 256gb.
And a few old mx100 still alive and kicking mostly 256gb couple 128gb which linux does not like one doa on linux because of crap firmware that linux never ran trim and filled it up so frankly not sure what to think of crucial

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Hi,
Just got a few of these
https://www.amazon.com/XPG-SX8200-Ge...tronics&sr=1-3
Reviews seemed fine regardless of what JackCY states about loosing data on the linked thread none mentioned on amazon plus win-10 runs trim so I doubt the firmware means much whether it's so called "generic" or not

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1-1tb games 150.us
2-512gb for os x99 & x299 75.us x2
512gb had a slightly lower write than the 970 evo but 1tb had slightly higher read if not the same read and write
SSD's are mostly reads anyway



Still have many 2.5" ssd's mostly samsung 850 pro's 256gb or evo 500gb and a couple 860 pro's that were dirt cheap but only for os's 256gb.
And a few old mx100 still alive and kicking mostly 256gb couple 128gb which linux does not like one doa on linux because of crap firmware that linux never ran trim and filled it up so frankly not sure what to think of crucial
I'm interested to hear how they work out for you. While some of the older ADATA drives were plagued with issues, I have heard nothing but good things about the SX8200 series.

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