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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 07-22-2019, 05:13 AM - Thread Starter
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860 Evo or 970 Evo?

Long story short i am buying a 2 TB SSD for my OS and games and i had my mind set on another 860 Evo because its a good drive and its cheap
But looking forward all motherboards today only has x8 SATA ports and for a server build thats starting to become a problem and i am NOT buying a PCI-E board with more SATA ports

So that got me thinking what about NVME instead? what i use the PC for is media playback web browsing light video editing and light gaming
All of these things wont in any way be better or faster with NVME and NVME drives cost a lot more than an 860 Evo so i have always been of the mindset that its a waste of money

I have x10 SATA ports on my Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming and i am using x8 of those which leaves me with 2 but a new motherboard would leave me with zero which is a massive problem
However NVME does not use SATA ports so i was thinking maybe NVME might not be such a bad idea after all and they are cheaper now than they where

As i said i have 8 devices using SATA ports an old 840 Evo (with Win 7) an 860 Evo (With Win 10 but being replaced) x5 HDD´s and a Blu-Ray drive and the case still have room for another HDD or 3 more if i convert the two 5,25 bays in the front

Does anyone have anything to add to this? anyone think its worth spending so much more just to free up a SATA port
I was set on the 2 TB 860 Evo but i am willing to change my mind if anyone has anything else to add

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Edit: another thing to add is all the SATA and SATA power cables behind the motherboard tray takes up quite a lot of space now one less SATA cable would be nice

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Yes pure storage drives are best to stay at 2.5"
OS drives at 90.us a 970 evo 500gb is hard to beat and plenty big for programs and a couple favorite games.

Bad thing about 860 ev or pro for that matter is warranty it's only 3 years I believe instead of 850 evo which is 5 years
Frankly 850 evo is just as fast costs more though go figure why

860's well I'm perplexed about them I have a couple of 860 pro versions and they are okay but yes 860 evo is dirt cheap for some odd reason so 2tb probably the best choice warranty is the only negative.

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I am not buying an SSD smaller than what i already have i need a 2 TB so a 500 GB or even a 1 TB is totally useless and not i was asking about that
Also i am not in the US in live in Denmark which means much higher prices

An 860 Evo 2 TB is 2354 kr which is $354 US converted
https://www.computersalg.dk/i/415355...mz-76e2t0b-2tb

The 970 Evo 2 TB is 3635 kr which is $546 US converted
https://www.komplett.dk/product/1120...o-plus-2tb-ssd

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I don't see the point in having that large of a os drive but to each his/ her own
When they fail they hurt more.

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If looking at the 970 Evo the only model to consider is the Plus

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How about an Intel 660P? It uses PCIe, not SATA but will be in the price and performance range of a SATA drive.
Was hoping to find a similar Crucial drive, but the 660P was the only 2TB model I could find.

btw, I bought a 970 Evo and with my usecase (mostly gaming) I do not notice a difference to my previous SATA drive. So I would totally recommend to only pay the extra for super fast drives if you actually are sure you will notice.



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Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
If looking at the 970 Evo the only model to consider is the Plus
computersalg has a problem with their price robot on their site but i called and he gave me an offer of 3599 kr for a 2 TB 970 Evo

I am tempted because once i upgrade to a new motherboard with only 8 SATA ports having x2 SATA SSD´s x5 HDD´s and a Blu-Ray drive becomes a massive problem since there are no SATA ports left and there is still room for another HDD in the case

I am leaning towards the 970 Evo because it would be easier to intall and have no cables and it would take up no SATA ports but its quite a lot more money for something i will get no use out of
I might remove the old 840 Evo with Windows 7 on it as well

BTW i could clone the 860 Evo to the 970 Evo right?
Quote: Originally Posted by f1LL View Post
How about an Intel 660P? It uses PCIe, not SATA but will be in the price and performance range of a SATA drive.
Was hoping to find a similar Crucial drive, but the 660P was the only 2TB model I could find.

btw, I bought a 970 Evo and with my usecase (mostly gaming) I do not notice a difference to my previous SATA drive. So I would totally recommend to only pay the extra for super fast drives if you actually are sure you will notice.



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The Intel 660P uses QLC NAND flash which is slower than a HDD when you move around large files so i might as well get a HDD if i needed a cheap drive with lots of space its that bad
And NVME is not faster or better in any way for gaming it just feels like it but its only a second faster at most


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660p is a memedisk, good only for trolling people.

NVMe disks are only useful when you're working on large files, else you don't see any benefit at all. Though it does use PCIe lane from chipset instead of SATA, so whatever you need. I'd just get rid of this old 840 and buy 860. But honestly, on your place I'd just build a dedicated machine for data storage and keep the current one as a main rig.

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660p is a memedisk, good only for trolling people.

NVMe disks are only useful when you're working on large files, else you don't see any benefit at all. Though it does use PCIe lane from chipset instead of SATA, so whatever you need. I'd just get rid of this old 840 and buy 860. But honestly, on your place I'd just build a dedicated machine for data storage and keep the current one as a main rig.
I already have an 860 Evo its just a 1 TB which is now too small, the 840 Evo is for Windows 7 and the 860 Evo is for Windows 10 and yes i need both OS´s as i have stuff that wont work on 10
Having two machines would be nice but i have a very limited budget and it has taken me months to save up enough for an RTX 2070 Super and a new SSD

I was planing on keeping my old GTX 1080 for another system but i am selling it after all since a good friend of mine needs a better GPU
But yes i agree NVME is an overhyped gimmick and there is only one reason why i would consider NVME and thats no SATA ports being used

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You'd have to run startup repair clone or restoring a system image
No NVMe driver so you'll get inaccessible boot device bsod booting to the m.2 after been there done that recently so you will need 1903/... installer media

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