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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-08-2014, 11:16 PM
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Dearhadder vs taipan which is even more ergonomical ?

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My hands are big enough for big mice, however I always feel a smaller mouse gives me more control over it and a larger mouse is more relaxing.

Should not be too small though smile.gif.
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I think the first page had a few things backwards. For a start, palm grip is the LEAST accurate - the pivot is far from the mouse itself and does not allow micro adjustments like claw or fingertip. Claw has the advantage of allowing a seamless transition to fingertip in high precision situations.

High DPI is only useful in FPS, rather than RTS, because it allows the user to swing their aim around as much as 360 degrees in a split second. As stated, this is not necessary in RTS games. The actual DPI you use will be personal preference, but 2000 DPI is as high as you'll want in any case.

I have the Steelseries Kinzu V2 Pro and it's actually a pretty good mouse. I got it because it was on special for $10 (clearance) and ended up buying one for my work PC too. It's actually a bit big for my small hands, so I'm still looking for a smaller mouse.

My next mouse to try is the Commatech M1 FKmini, which is 104mm long. Kinzu is 117mm. For point of reference, the g9x is 108mm with the custom grip addons not installed.

I have the Razer Salmosa pro edition (which is 95mm), but the upwards curve at the tip of the buttons Razer use drives me nuts. It's the same on the Abysus, which is 115mm and a great mouse in its own right, but ugh so many missclicks from that button shape for me.

I think based on the condition of 800-2000DPI and your definition of small (my definition is obviously a lot smaller), you can practically pick from at least 20 equally as good choices.

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Originally Posted by -Solaris View Post

I am thinking of getting a new mouse and I only play LoL and Dota2. I currently have DA 3.5 and I have small hands so I want to get a smaller mouse.

However, do people generally use small mice for RTS/MOBA games? I'd also imagine claw/finger grip would be better than palm grip for these games because its more about speed (to pan across the screen and return the mouse cursor into the middle of the screen, also can be used to kite in MOBAS) than accuracy unlike an FPS game.

Any thoughts?

I play lots of SC2/DOTA2 and like small mice
Currently using an ec2 evo CL
Just got my Kana v2 today so ill be using that.
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I think that the reason for small mice is that you can set your sensitivity in an RTS to cover the whole screen without needing to lift the heal of your palm from the mouse mat if you use fingertip grip. I find that 1600 DPI is about the point where I can just move my fingers and not the rest of my wrist/arm but still cover my whole 1080p screen with my mouse cursor. FPS players tend to use different grips and need easily "liftable" mouse shapes because even at really high sensitivity you will still have to lift and high sensitivity is much worse for aim in FPS games than RTS. I am currently using a G100S.

To show my point, here is a link to Jaedong (Starcraft II) who rarely lifts his wrist from one spot and uses the Razer Taipan.

Here is Cooler playing Quake IV. Notice that he has his elbow on the table to use as a pivot and lifts the mouse every few seconds to recenter it.
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It's also because Asians in general have smaller hands than the Western world. Hence the popularity of the Zowie Mico, for which the marketing states was created for and designed by members of Startale and KtRolster. At 98mm in length, it clearly highlights the smaller hand size dominant over there. The average westerner might find the Mico too small even for claw grip.

In Sc2, I have windows mouse setting on step 6 (1:1) and sc2 sensitivity on 51%. I use 1800dpi @ 1080p. At these settings, the cursor JUST falls short of the edge of the screen without any sideways movement, but I just naturally switch from claw to fingertip to allow a horizontal movement underneath my palm, which still does not require my palm to move. I find the slightly lower sensitivity (as opposed to increasing it so that no movement is necessary) suits me better in terms of having more control/accuracy.

As far as Sc2 sensitivy goes, my settings are pretty smack bang in the middle of typical settings used. I'm not a super fast player as I don't really spam much, but my apm is still ~180 on average.

Honestly, based on my settings, I could replicate them with 50 different mice. So for me, the primary factor in choosing a mouse is it's shape and how well it fits my grip.

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Originally Posted by crizthakidd View Post

Dearhadder vs taipan which is even more ergonomical ?

Definitely the DeathAdder. Just ambidextrous vs. right/left handed is enough to make the DA win this one.

However, mice are literally 100% personal preference, so if you prefer the feel of the Taipan, I won't try to stop you.
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