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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 05-02-2014, 09:15 AM - Thread Starter
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Good day to you all.

It seems the time has come. When the g400s was announced, I bought a spare g400, but now I've burned through both of them. Brilliant mice, despite the somewhat short lifespan. Predictionless, no accel, and the sensor just feels great. It's the perfect mouse for me. But with how hard they are to get a hold of these days, it seems I have to cave in and buy a g400s. And after all, they're identical – or are they?

I don't care about the switches, the cable or the CPI steps. I play on 800 CPI, which is a native step on the g400s as well, as far as I've gathered. But what's this I hear about smoothing? Has there beyond any doubt been proven smoothing on the new SROM that wasn't there on the g400? And most importantly, would this kick in at the 800 CPI step? If it's exclusive to the high CPI tweaks that have been done, I don't mind.

Any input here is greatly appreciated, (as long as it's not "you probably won't notice" or "just buy the one you like the most!". This matters.)

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Somehow you have answered your question yourself already.
The 400s apparently has some smoothing, so if you are sensitive in that respect and this is a no go for you in general don't buy it.

However personally I would echo "you probably won't notice it".
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what broke on the g400?

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He's referring to the G400s not the G400 - the 4000 cpi rom used in the G400s is known for a certain amount of smoothing - in contrast to the 3600 cpi rom the G400 utilizes.
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I hear the G400s smoothing is more severe than the 3310. I remember feeling a strange latency to that mouse myself even before I switched to something else. Could never put my finger on it. I did own the G400s briefly before I said screw it I'm finding another shape because I've always hated that shape.

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I actually grew up using the MX518, so the shape has grown on me over the years.
The G400s itself felt fine for as long as I didn't have anything better to compare it against.

Since the 3310 mice are available though I immediately recognized those to feel in general...snappier.
When transitioning to my new daily driver I went back to the G400s occasionally and even for me who in general is not really sensitive to these kind of things it was quiet a noticeable difference.
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unfortunately logitech hasn't released a new mid range mouse since the g400s and we have no indication when they might release a new one. The g502 has a great sensor, but heavy scroll wheel and is over 20 grams heavier then the g400. Might be a good time to try another brand. mionix avior 7000 or naos 7000 would be obvious choices. Mionix has great built quality and they have good sensors as well and both of them are within 5 grams of the weight of the g400 you are used to.

Another option If you can find the receipt, i think there is a 3 year warranty, if you can get them to replace it, with a g400s for no charge, you lose nothing trying it, right?
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what broke on the g400?

Very good question indeed.

Dunno how it is with the G400s but with the:
  • MX510
  • MX518
  • G400

Parts are interchangeable. If the main PCB still works and a button broke, you could buy a G400s with some skates, replace the main PCB with the one from the G400 et voila. No soldering either, the cables have a plug.

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g400 s dont have smoothing to me it was more accurate than my deathadder 2013 to me. use its native dpi settings with out the drivers. Native settings are 800 dpi/ 4000dpi

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Very good question indeed.

Dunno how it is with the G400s but with the:
  • MX510
  • MX518
  • G400

Parts are interchangeable. If the main PCB still works and a button broke, you could buy a G400s with some skates, replace the main PCB with the one from the G400 et voila. No soldering either, the cables have a plug.

the main-PCB is unfortunatly soldered to the button-PCB since G400(it safes weight tho[and money for logitech tongue.gif]). cOaics.jpg

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