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First up,same as with the Sensorlist, the mice and hardware listed on this page is in no way a measurement of performance, tracking or latency properties. Performance between mice with similar hardware may vary due to various reasons. Regardless, there are those individuals that will find this information useful, and if you want to make sure the stars are aligned correctly. Discussion is of course welcomed.

 

I will update the list whenever i feel like it, keep in mind that this is just a small start, so please dont go "This mouse has mcu that" for now, there will be many additions over the next few days, corrections and revisions of mice are welcome.

 

 

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Bloody V3 SoNiX SN8F2253BSG
ASUS
ROG Gladius STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-T6U6A ARM M3
ROG Sica STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-T6U6A ARM M3
Strix Claw NXP LPC11U14F ARM M0
Azio
Exo1 Holtek HT82F553
CM Storm
Alcor Holtek HT32F1755 ARM M3
Havoc SoNiX SN8F2288
Mizar Holtek HT32F1755 ARM M3
Octane Holtek HT82F553
Reaper SoNiX SN8F2288FG
Recon Cypress CY7C64356
Sentinel Advance II SoNiX SN8F2288FG
Spawn Cypress CY7C64356
Xornet Cypress CY7C64343
Xornet II ST Microelectronics STM32-F042-G6
Corsair
M45 Freescale MC9S08JM32 S08
M65 Freescale MC9S08JM32 S08
M95 Freescale MC9S08JM32 S08
Cougar
300m Sino Wealth SH88F88P
450m NXP LPC11U14F  
550m NXP LPC11U14F
600m NXP LPC11U14F
700m NXP LPC11U14F
Epic Gear  
Cyclops X ST Microelectronics STM32-L100-RBT6
EVGA  
TorQ X5 Optical NXP LPC11U14F  
Feenix
Nascita Holtek HT82A525R
Finalmouse
Finalmouse Holtek HT68FB540
Func/Fnatic
Flick G1 HT68FB560
MS-2 Weltrend WT6563F 8052
MS-3 Weltrend WT6573F 8052
Gamdias
Erebos Extension Optical Holtek HT82F553
Genius
G510 Weltrend WT6573F 8052
Gila NXP LPC11U14H
Maurus X NXP LPC11U14H
Leetgion
El'Druin Holtek HT82A525R
Logitech
G300 SunplusIT SPCP866E2A
G302 STMicroelectronics STM32-L100 R8
G400 SunplusIT SPCP866E2A
G400 "Rev.2" SunplusIT SPCP866E2A
G402 STMicroelectronics STM32-F102
G500 Freescale MC98JW32
G502 STMicroelectronics STM32-L100 R8
G9X Freescale MC98JW32
MX 518 2nd Gen. Cypress CY7C63743C
Mad Catz
R.A.T. 8 NXP MKL26Z128VFT4
R.A.T. T.E. Cypress CY7C64215
Microsoft
Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 MLT04 (SoC)
Intellimouse Optical 1.1 MLT04 (SoC)
Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1 MLT04 (SoC)
Mionix
Avior 7000 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 ARM M3
Avior 8200 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 ARM M3
Castor STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 ARM M3
Naos 7000 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 ARM M3
Naos 8200 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 ARM M3
Ninox
Aurora Holtek HT82A525R
Nixeus  
Revel Holtek HT68FB560  
Razer  
Abyssus 3.5G ELAN Microelectronics EM78M680DCMJ
Abyssus 2014 NXP LPC11U22F ARM M0
Abyssus "V2" NXP LPC11U23F ARM M0  
Deathadder 3.5G Cypress CY7C64215
Deathadder 4G/ Chroma Freescale MC9S08JM32 S08
Deathadder Elite NXP LPC11U35F ARM M0    
Imperator 3.5G Freescale MC9S08JM6 S08
Naga 2014 NXP LPC11U23F ARM M0  
Taipan NXP LPC11U14F ARM M0
Roccat
Kiro STMicroelectronics STM32-F042-G6 ARM M0
Kone Pure STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 ARM M3
Kone Pure Military STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 ARM M3
Kone Pure Optical STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 ARM M3
Kone XTD STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 ARM M3
Kova Reboot
NXP LPC11U24F
   
Lua Cypress CY7C643
Savu NXP LPC1343 ARM M3
Sentey
Lumenata Pro SoNix SN8F2288JG + SN8P2608
Sharkoon
Darkglider Holtek HT82A525R
Steelseries  
Ikari Optical Cypress CY7C64215
Kana Freescale MC9S08JM8 S08
Kana v2 Freescale MC9S08JM8 S08
Kinzu v2 Freescale MC9S08JM8 S08
Rival Freescale MC9S08JM16 S08
Sensei STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T
Sensei RAW Freescale MC9S08JM16 S08
Sensei Wireless Freescale MC9S08JM60 S08
XAI STMicroelectronics uPSD3422e 8032
Tesoro    
Sagitta Spectrum H6L
NXP LPC11U14F  
Tt eSports
Azurues SoNix SN8F2255B
Level 10 M SoNiX SN8F2288FG
Theron SoNiX SN8F2288FG
Theron Infrared SoNiX SN8F2288FG
Theron Smart NXP LPC11U34F
Ventus SoNiX SN8F2288F6
Ventus X STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-T6U6A
Volos NXP LPC11U34F
Zalman
ZM-GM4 "Knossos" Freescale MC9S08JM16 S08
Zowie  
AM Cypress CY7C64215
EC1/eVo/CL Cypress CY7C64215
EC2/eVo/CL Cypress CY7C64215
FK Cypress CY7C64215
FK1 Cypress CY7C64215
FK2 Cypress CY7C64215
ZA Series Cypress CY7C64215
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What difference Sensei MCU have ? 32bit arm?
Is it rly better ?
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Let's overclock our mouse MCU! Thank you for the list.
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What difference Sensei MCU have ? 32bit arm?
Is it rly better ?

 

Well, that is the question, how do mice exactly profit from 32 Bit if they can even profit from it, tbh i dont know anything about it other than the obvious stuff, the R Series is also quite interesting altough i know even less about real time computing.

 

For now the only thing i can say is Firmwarequality > Computingpower, altough apparently writing Firmware for 32bit architectures is easier than for 8bit.

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Love it. +REP to you, sir.

Are there any references that give descriptions of the differences between MCUs and how they affect the mouse performance overall?

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MICE OWNED
Steelseries Rival, Ninox Aurora, Comfort Mouse 6000, Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a, Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, PureTrak Valor, Roccat Lua, Logitech G602, Logitech MX310, Razer Deathadder 3G, Razer Deathadder 3.5G, Razer Deathadder 4G, Razer Abyssus 2010 LoL Edition, Creative Fatal1ty 1010

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Steelseries Sensei, Steelseries Sensei RAW, Steelseries Kinzu, Steelseries Ikari Optical, CM Storm Spawn, CM Storm Recon, Razer Imperator, Razer Naga 2012, Razer Taipan, Razer Naga 2014, Logitech G502, Logitech G100s, Logitech G302, Logitech G600, Logitech G700, Logitech G500, Logitech G500s, Logitech G400, Logitech G400s, Logitech G402, Zowie EC2-A, Zowie FK1, EVGA X3, EVGA X5, EVGA X10, Corsair M45
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Love it. +REP to you, sir.

Are there any references that give descriptions of the differences between MCUs and how they affect the mouse performance overall?

 

Obviously the biggest reference are the Suppliers themselves when it comes to specs, typing in the part number in Google should give appropriate results, i cant tell you the specific differences of for Example the Motorola/Freescale S08 Architecture and ARM, but as far as i always understood it more bit means more possible at the same time, so while i havent discovered a direct advantage of simply having more power and for some MCU´s speed, writing firmware for 32bit is easier than for 8bit which should reduce Performancegaps in theory for Brands who arent that good with FW writing, like CM Storm for Example, if they even do it themselves. Also ,as Skylit told me, the F100 Series from ST is rather cheap and should offer more than enough speed for anything that doesnt have 2 LCD´s, 10 Lightingmodes and 500 Buttons, L100 is also considered "Value Line" so it should be similar priced altough it has slightly more speed.

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I was waiting for something like this!

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Well, that is the question, how do mice exactly profit from 32 Bit if they can even profit from it, tbh i dont know anything about it other than the obvious stuff, the R Series is also quite interesting altough i know even less about real time computing.

Plenty of sensors support 16bit of resolution per axis, thus a 32bit MCU should be able to process both axes at the same time with clever tinkering, and should allow up to 32bit per axis from the sensor (not sure that's happening on current offerings, not going to check, no time).
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For now the only thing i can say is Firmwarequality > Computingpower, altough apparently writing Firmware for 32bit architectures is easier than for 8bit.

Agree on the first part, partially disagree on the second one.

You're more restricted on 8bit MCUs, but less bits mean less circuit complexity, which has quite a few potential advantages (less consumption, less electrical interference, higher potential clocks and so on). It depends on what your focus is and the balance of the chip. We've seen 32bit ARM MCUs coming to mice all those years, and it also brought worse firmware and unwanted or unneeded features.

In general, if your firmware programmers are very focused on optimization, you want a MCU with which they can squeeze all the performance from the sensor, and this usually does not mean the most powerful one, but rather the one that matches the capabilities of the sensor plus a margin.
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