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post #701 of 724 (permalink) Old 01-07-2020, 04:40 PM
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I spent a few hours attempting to get this to work and the problem that was preventing me was that I was installing SweetLow's certificate as Current User and not Local Machine. Anyway I will post what I did to maybe help some of you people having issues with troubleshooting.

I'm on Windows 10 Pro 10.0.18363 Build 18363 and my motherboard is from Gigabyte.


I used vadash's 1000hz from github which includes everything you need here: https://github.com/vadash/1000hz

-Disabled xHCI in BIOS
-Set bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
-Set bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON
-Rebooted
-Installed SweetLow Certificate (Make sure you install it under "Local Machine")
-Copied atsiv to C:\Program Files\atsiv
-Found Mouse ID with atsiv

cd "C:\Program Files\atsiv"
.\devcon.exe find *mouse*

-Created atsiv tasks in Task Scheduler copying MouseOC_1.xml & MouseOC_2.xml profiles from 1000hz-master
Note: Change the Mouse ID to match yours in the arguments, also the XML files would not import so I had to create new tasks & manually copy the arguments/actions/settings. You can still view the settings/properties from the MouseOC XML files but not import.

-Run Setup.exe, Filter On Device @ 1000
-Install Service, click Restart.

You should now have 1000hz.



This is what worked for me, I hope this might help some people who are lost in this thread.
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post #702 of 724 (permalink) Old 01-13-2020, 03:58 PM
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any updates to getting 8000Hz ?

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Quote: Originally Posted by OCmember View Post
any updates to getting 8000Hz ?
What makes you think that with overclocking to 8000 there are some problems (in the software part, of course), but with ordinary overclocking (up to 1000) there are none? I always publish three versions of driver.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SweetLow View Post
What makes you think that with overclocking to 8000 there are some problems (in the software part, of course), but with ordinary overclocking (up to 1000) there are none? I always publish three versions of driver.
ok, buddy

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I installed the 2-4KHz driver but when I try to set the poll rate to 31 Hz I get just 31 Hz. Is there anything i can do about it?
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I installed the 2-4KHz driver but when I try to set the poll rate to 31 Hz I get just 31 Hz. Is there anything i can do about it?
>when I try to set the poll rate to 31 Hz I get just 31 Hz
This means that you really don't install 2-4KHz driver or don't apply patch through atsiv accordingly or just have some unsupported driver of USB Host Controller. Look at the last postscriptum of the first post.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SweetLow View Post
>when I try to set the poll rate to 31 Hz I get just 31 Hz
This means that you really don't install 2-4KHz driver or don't apply patch through atsiv accordingly or just have some unsupported driver of USB Host Controller. Look at the last postscriptum of the first post.
It seems that atsiv only works in Windows 10 test mode. I tried to overclock three mice but had no luck. Cooler Master MM710 and Steelseries Kana V2 stop working after restart and with Nixeus Revel all I get is 125 Hz.
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It seems that atsiv only works in Windows 10 test mode. I tried to overclock three mice but had no luck. Cooler Master MM710 and Steelseries Kana V2 stop working after restart and with Nixeus Revel all I get is 125 Hz.
>It seems that atsiv only works in Windows 10 test mode.
Of course, no. It works on usual Windows and needed exactly for that case.

>I tried to overclock three mice but had no luck. Cooler Master MM710 and Steelseries Kana V2 stop working after restart and with Nixeus Revel all I get is 125 Hz.
Before trying to get 2000Hz try ordinary 1000Hz (or just set nominal rate of your mouse in setup to get hidusbf loaded). Of course, it is possible to have first two results (i personally have stop working on Logitech MX310 when it is overclocked to 2000Hz+) but 125Hz instead of stop working or 1000Hz points to something wrong in setup with high probability.
P.S. Probably all your mice are incapable of 2000Hz but i appreciate your testing.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SweetLow View Post
125Hz instead of stop working or 1000Hz points to something wrong in setup with high probability.
P.S. Probably all your mice are incapable of 2000Hz but i appreciate your testing.
It seems that this strange behavior is somehow related to USB port and not the mouse itself. With some ports I get 125 Hz instead of overclock and with others mouse stops working. It doesn't matter which exact mouse I am trying to overclock.

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I'm a bit curious how the overclocking works, does the driver poll the mouse multiple times in one frame, or does it start USB frames more frequently? I ask because some of the example code I'm looking at for writing my own mouse firmware uses the SoF callback to read the sensor, which would interfere with the first possibility.

The other options for starting sensor reads are the transfer complete callback (slightly less than 1 poll interval more latency, but should be easily overclockable), or a timer based on the transfer complete callback and the time between poll intervals(best of both worlds, but also the most work).


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